Guild Transfer & Guild Rename Services Coming, The View From 10,000 Feet

[Maester]

I'm pretty damn sure that even thinking about making Hit an important stats for Plate wearing Tanks is something we tanks should be QQing about, instead of the payed Guild Realm Transfer.

[antonatsis]

None of the shit Blizzard makes available through their store is game changing. The crap you buy through micro transactions in F2P games makes a massive difference. In terms of actual gameplay you pay a monthly fee and are on equal footing with the billionaire across the sea. That's what you pay the monthly fee for. Good luck being equal to that same guy in a F2P game if he can spend 1000 bucks a month on armor and whatnot and you have a mere 20 bucks spare a month.

Blizzard isn't the only company charging for character transfers, renaming of chars, change of appearance etc etc in their MMO. ALL MMO COMPANIES DO IT. DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUH!!!!!!!!

Previously you could only get a guild transfered with gbank etc intact if there was a free char migration open from your server. And even then it required talking to a GM for it to be done.

This lets guilds transfer as they please, which is a huge perk if you find yourself on an imbalanced server. The guild I was in before quitting had 1.7 million gold in the gbank at the time. My guess would be that number increased by now. Most of our members were WELL over the gold cap for transfers. Now everyone can chugg their gold in the gbank and transfer all their cash along with just 1 or 2 characters instead of needing 10 char transfers or buying crap on the ah before a transfer.

If you have a reliable GM this should not be an issue what so ever. If your GM is a tool, then what the hell are you still doing in that guild?[COLOR="red"]
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i dont have an issue with this since i dont play but what about people that are forced to transfer that way?

example No1
you go with a guild for years 90% of your wow friends are from that guild...eventually the guild decides to transfer you will follow even thought you dont want to transfer so much

example No2
you are in a guild and manage to do sh!tload of things together you make a name for yourself you are somebody in that guild you are one the those guys...and the leaders of the guild decide to transfer you will go with them even if you want it or not because every wow achievement(not the game mechanic)you have is with them and you are actually someone among the sea of anonimity of wow

example No3
you are a last chancer most of the guilds you have found suck and you find a good guild with good lads and pretty reasonable progress for you it was your last chance as a "faction name"it was that guild or change faction since you know the server and they decide to transfer you will go with them because you found a place to enjoy the game

in all of the above examples the GM and officers aren't mentioned as bad people or good ones they just took a decision that decision will cost you and 80% random$ thats why i think is not something good but then again i dont count since i dont play anymore and my examples are healthy examples of a vast number of wow players into that i dont give example of people that just want a guild and will stick to the 1st decent they find no matter what change they do...or people that care for loot and are on a guild that deliver what they want....it forces you to pay and the argument of you dont have to pay is not valid cause the pressure from your guild mates/wow friends will be a big factor for you and most people think hey its 25$(thats a random number btw)
as for the F2P and P2P at least in F2P you know what you are doing in what blizzard does is treating you like a 12 year boy that will chew what ever it gives you and hope that people that are grown ups and dont actually care about the given amount of money will back it up...iam one of those if i was in a good guild hell 25 or 30$ would be a lot of money to give for that guild every now or then

again to clarify myself i dont bitch about this i just think its the first bad micro transaction that blizzard will put in the game and in Greece we have a saying which ill roughly translate :P
if one evil is coming countless are following!

[Buzzinjoe]

i dont have an issue with this since i dont play but what about people that are forced to transfer that way?

example No1
you go with a guild for years 90% of your wow friends are from that guild...eventually the guild decides to transfer you will follow even thought you dont want to transfer so much

example No2
you are in a guild and manage to do sh!tload of things together you make a name for yourself you are somebody in that guild you are one the those guys...and the leaders of the guild decide to transfer you will go with them even if you want it or not because every wow achievement(not the game mechanic)you have is with them and you are actually someone among the sea of anonimity of wow

example No3
you are a last chancer most of the guilds you have found suck and you find a good guild with good lads and pretty reasonable progress for you it was your last chance as a "faction name"it was that guild or change faction since you know the server and they decide to transfer you will go with them because you found a place to enjoy the game

in all of the above examples the GM and officers aren't mentioned as bad people or good ones they just took a decision that decision will cost you and 80% random$ thats why i think is not something good but then again i dont count since i dont play anymore and my examples are healthy examples of a vast number of wow players into that i dont give example of people that just want a guild and will stick to the 1st decent they find no matter what change they do...or people that care for loot and are on a guild that deliver what they want....it forces you to pay and the argument of you dont have to pay is not valid cause the pressure from your guild mates/wow friends will be a big factor for you and most people think hey its 25$(thats a random number btw)
as for the F2P and P2P at least in F2P you know what you are doing in what blizzard does is treating you like a 12 year boy that will chew what ever it gives you and hope that people that are grown ups and dont actually care about the given amount of money will back it up...iam one of those if i was in a good guild hell 25 or 30$ would be a lot of money to give for that guild every now or then

again to clarify myself i dont bitch about this i just think its the first bad micro transaction that blizzard will put in the game and in Greece we have a saying which ill roughly translate :P
if one evil is coming countless are following!

You do realise that all 3 of your examples already occur right now, yeh? This new service will not make any difference. The only thing this service offers is the option to take your guild with you (not the people in it) without having to empty the guild bank and spread it across characters in preperation of a transfer. The way I understand it, all members including the GM will still have to pay for a seperate character transfer.

[Cows For Life]

Anything that lowers that barriers for a guild leader to move and take everything with one click is a good thing. Anyone that thinks otherwise is just a hater.

[Madrail]

[...] I’m going to point out a lot of design flaws in our game. “Oh no! Goatcaller admitted WoW was deeply flawed! It’s shark-jumping time!” Look, Blizzard is very critical about our own designs. [...]

brb, making character named Goatcaller...

Seriously, that was awesome. I lol'd irl.

[Ceresc]

What I am curious to know is what about guild mergers? I'm not worried about guild relocation but it would be nice if I could merge my guild with the other guild I run with and maintain my guild rep. In fact the whole guild would like to merge but no one wants to lose their rep to the merger so we stand divided.

[Fojos]

Blizzard is already making hundreds of millions if not billions in profit, when is enough enough?

They don't make close to hundreds of millions profit. You really don't know what you're talking about.

[Repellerar]

Problem is Blizzard is getting away with a subscription AND micro-transaction game, it's insane, we pay monthly we shouldn't have this micro-transaction filth shoved in our faces.

[khh]

Paid guild name change and server transfer. bwahahahahahahahahahaha So now the real reason for guild perk implementation comes out.

i can even imagine Bob Kotick going: "people are transferring their characters between realms, and remaking their guilds all the time. how we are not making any profit with it?"

[Fojos]

Problem is Blizzard is getting away with a subscription AND micro-transaction game, it's insane, we pay monthly we shouldn't have this micro-transaction filth shoved in our faces.

You don't need to buy it.

[Repellerar]

You don't need to buy it.

Oh my bad, thought it was required. Oh wait it is required, the server transfers, name changes and in-game items are in fact core mechanics that change gameplay. Twist it how you will but it's still true. These services should be included for the price of our monthly fee. It's hardly justified by Blizzard, but there is nothing we can do about it other than complain.

[Deleted]

WTB level 16+ guild. Offering 100k gold (more for a higher level guild). You can clear out the guildbank before selling. Achievements not important. Members and name not important either, as I will be transfering and name changing. Serious replies only, whisper me.

</sarcasm>

[Deleted]

Guild RENAME...finally, yeah !!!

BTW, how much?

[Deleted]

I can see the guild transfer going so horribly wrong.... Help!! Been hacked, my guild is gone! Along with out 500K golds, crafting mats gears..

How exactly?

If the guild Master and officers have authenticators and look after their computers, then everything is fine. If they don't, hackers can get all that without having to use the transfer thing..

[kushlol]

I think this idea could be great but I think its about time blizzard reduced the prices of all paid services. We already pay a pretty hefty subscription so they need not milk us dry. All paid services should take at least a 30% drop in price.

[Buzzinjoe]

Oh my bad, thought it was required. Oh wait it is required, the server transfers, name changes and in-game items are in fact core mechanics that change gameplay. Twist it how you will but it's still true. These services should be included for the price of our monthly fee. It's hardly justified by Blizzard, but there is nothing we can do about it other than complain.

Mounts and pets don't change gameplay. Not a single MMO offers name/faction/realm changes for free. Those are not micro-transactions.

You don't have to name change you can just reroll. You don't have to take your current character to another realm, you can just level a new one. You don't have to transfer your guild, you can just create a new one.

They don't have to offer any of those services. Be glad they do.

---------- Post added 2011-03-24 at 04:33 PM ----------

I think this idea could be great but I think its about time blizzard reduced the prices of all paid services. We already pay a pretty hefty subscription so they need not milk us dry. All paid services should take at least a 30% drop in price.

15$ a month is no 'hefty fee'. I pay 50 bucks a month for my gym (it's a very nice gym). I buy a newspaper every morning for 1.50 bucks. And I get much less enjoyment out of that newspaper than I do out of a game.

[sdgrover91]

For someone like myself and my wife. I believe this will be a great service. We transferred our main toons from a PVE server to a PVP server to raid with some RL friends during the last couple months of WotLK. Both toons are Day 1 toons having well over 500 days played on each toon. Since the release of Cata we have seen a dramatic drop in membership due to the lack of raid progression. I will not get into the reasons for that because they have been dragged through the mud on so many other threads it would be pointless to bring them up here. With the release of Rift we lost the three main officers and the GM. They turned the guild over to my and I would love to be able to transfer the guild, including bank, rep, and rewards to a PVE server. I would love to not loose another guild bank, this one with 7 tabs, to a server change as we already have 2 guilds with 6 tab banks on servers we no longer enjoy playing on.

I think this is a great idea and look forward to the implementation of this on live servers.

[Kazlehoff]

Gruid Transfer is a terrible idea. this is going to go SO SO BADLY.

[Deleted]

The thing about every single item from their shop, is that it's vanity item. The thing about every paid service is that you essentially NEVER have to use it, if you dont want to.

Dont make a big deal about this. It will help the guys willing to spent the bucks on changing server with their guilds, it will change NOTHING for the average person.

Drama for drama's sake is so boring.

[Rolly]

They don't make close to hundreds of millions profit. You really don't know what you're talking about.

Have a read http://investor.activision.com/reports.cfm those numbers you see, you know those ones that are in the thousands, each one of those represents a million dollars. So 1000 of those numbers equal 1000 million dollars and "HOly Cow" how much is a billion dollars, well there Junior, 1000 million equals 1 billion. And notice the name at the top, it's Activision/Blizzard, as in one company.