Aspect of the Fox Usage

[timoseewho]

Hello, my main question is how often do you find yourself switching to AofF during raids in this expansion? I've heard many say that One with Nature loses its usefulness due to the switching between AotH/AotF, but I'll be completely honest, I don't find myself doing that often enough then. Off the top of my head, the only ones I can really think of are Argaloth, Atramedes, and Ascendant Council. Can someone enlighten me here? I guess it boils down to, how much time DPS'ing in AotF makes up for the AP loss from AotH (assuming all the DPS in AotF is done in movement)? Thanks guys!

[Dandy]

Never. Well, if im kiting parasites on magmaw hc, I might switch every now and then.

[Shockymonkey]

Atramedes Phase 2 for sure. Makes Kiting and Avoiding crap a joke while still DPS'ing.

[taekvideo]

Only use it when u absolutely have to cast steady shot on the move... and if u follow it with an instant or 2, make sure to switch to hawk before casting the instants

[Deleted]

Atramedes p 2
Ascendant Council p2
and Al'akir p1

thats about it.

[Herecius]

Extremely fast AotF switching can benefit you greatly. Random example; Blackout on V&T just hit, and Chimera has 3 seconds. Instant switch to AotF, get off two steadies while running in to stack, switch to AotH, hit Chimera, disengage out. Just always switch back to Hawk for instants.

During Atramedes air phase (esp. on heroic when you really cannot stop moving for more than a second or so), I am constantly switching back and forth, Fox for steadies, Hawk for AS/CS, etc.

[Deleted]

tbh i use AotF always when i have to move to keep the rotation going. only use it to do steady's got AotH macroed in my instant attacks (not on aimed shot cause it fucks up the proc, need to cast still if i macro it)
examples (remember im in a 10man guild so it can be different for 25 man):
V&T blackout to move in, switch fases to dodge the portals, to get out of that black stuff.
council: to get rit of waterlogged, P2 kinda is constant moving
cho'gall: to get out of those vortex, dps'ing add while moving to the back of the room.
omnotron: normal: not really needed. HC only when its needed to move but its rare.
magmaw: normal actually no need cause of disengage. HC: every time im moving (im the hug target so its kinda constant to keep group save).
atramedes: normal&HC: maybe when i move in to hug, but depends if we have shaman cause of AotW. for moving out i just disengage
Maloriak: normal&HC: only when moving which aint much
neffy: well ofc when im moving but if your just dps'ing find a good spot and you only have to switch during phase change from p1 to p2
conclave: /yawn, same shit as always. only on the move.
al akir: if you've seen the fight you know its kinda random when needed.

atramedes: normal well speaks for itself.

During Atramedes air phase (esp. on heroic when you really cannot stop moving for more than a second or so), I am constantly switching back and forth, Fox for steadies, Hawk for AS/CS, etc.

your so treu. im always happy with my task (not). im the one doing the gongs in air phase so im not really able to dps much in air phase cause im kiting the flames for 15 seconds and i kite them behind the gongs so there never is more than one line in front of it, and behind the gongs your out of range. really helps the melee who's doing the gong in land phase.

[Ninjamoo]

Only use it when u absolutely have to cast steady shot on the move... and if u follow it with an instant or 2, make sure to switch to hawk before casting the instants

Pretty much this. There aren't too many instances where you need to move great distances so disengage usually gets you there without needing to fox it up.

[XanderJS]

Personally I use it all the time. I'm constantly dacing with my aspects. Whenever I need to move and a instant shot is in CD or I need to get the focus to keep my rotation going I'll swap in and out. Even on argaloth I find myself swapping between the 2 on the move now Im so used to it. AotF for moving with cobra shots then swithc back to AotH for ES and BA and then back to AotF until the movement phase is over. It's such and incredibly useful tool to keep you dps-ing and your rotation going that i use it at every opportunity!

[Konik]

omnotron: normal: not really needed. HC only when its needed to move but its rare.

when moving to Power Generator

[redsunrising15]

I never, ever use it in dungeons, and in raids, it sees very limited usage.

I mostly use it in PvP.

[tibben]

I use it sparingly on a few encounters. Ascendant Council and Atramedes heroic are the only ones where it sees more than a couple seconds of use. Most other encounters I just use disengage when I need to move or if the movement is only for 1 or 2 seconds and I can just fire off a couple AS or a CS or instant AiS. I might use it a little more on Heroic Magmaw depending on where the adds fall, but there I can typically use instants until I am clear of flame pillar.

[TJ]

Extremely fast AotF switching can benefit you greatly. Random example; Blackout on V&T just hit, and Chimera has 3 seconds. Instant switch to AotF, get off two steadies while running in to stack, switch to AotH, hit Chimera, disengage out. Just always switch back to Hawk for instants.

During Atramedes air phase (esp. on heroic when you really cannot stop moving for more than a second or so), I am constantly switching back and forth, Fox for steadies, Hawk for AS/CS, etc.

I barely use fox on heroic, its just thinking ahead whilst monitoring timers and pooling focus to dump on arcane whilst moving etc. Killed it a few times though so i know it inside out, just takes a bit of learning after doing it once.

[Nephrolepis]

I use AotF on a situational basis, like most have said. Some fights make it worth it, others don't. Mostly I end up staying in AotH because its so nice now.

[Kalti]

I honestly don't even even use it much in PvP, only for a couple of steadys here and there.

When I first saw the ability I remember thinking it would be game changing, but in practice, while it is usefull in PvP, it certainly isn't game changing seeing as there are so many ways to keep your opponent still while you turret in hawk.

[jaksan]

I use it when I need to move. If I am able I try to time my arcane dump when I have to move but it doesnt work all the time so then I switch into fox. It is alot about timing because every shot you shot while in fox is a loss

[Airwaves]

On fights which don't need dps but for you to move the fuck out of stuff i just keep it on(Which is most). You can pull as much dps as everyone else with it on. Max dps isn't the point to 90% of fights, people still seem to think it is but...

And if u play with recount up while ur in fight i will punch you in face

[disturbiaa]

In PvE i rarely use it unless the encounter involves me moving constantly i personally use it for PvP due it tis more needed. For PvP use it on steady shot then go AotH when im gonna use CS and AC then back to Fox for steady shots. so pvp i see it more of a "aspect dancing" way of playing then in PvE.

[jaksan]

On fights which don't need dps but for you to move the fuck out of stuff i just keep it on(Which is most). You can pull as much dps as everyone else with it on. Max dps isn't the point to 90% of fights, people still seem to think it is but...

And if u play with recount up while ur in fight i will punch you in face

No but DPS is alot and every bit of dps helps and why run in fox when you can switch into hawk fire off what you can and then move to fox again? Maybe you are lazy but I try to maximize my dps. on V&T for example when you have to move alot in phase 2 I aspect dance all the time to get those extra cobra/steady off and get the extra AP while waiting for the black hole shit

[Thereign]

Atramedes P2, and for Baradin Hold. Not a very necessary ability, just stutter your abilities.