World of Warcraft Catered to Casuals

[DavidSoMighty]

Thanks Blizzard! I now can be 12/12 in the current tier, and have enough time to work, and keep my significant other in love with me! You may have pissed off a lot of the hardcore players, but kept the average joe happy, and for that i thank you.
I really enjoy the fact that i can play 2 nights a week, and still have all the gear to keep up with the latest tiers. Anyone else agree?

[Deleted]

Sounds to me like you have missed half the tier. Hardmodes.

[Calzaeth]

I agree! And I can honestly say that I love the fights as well^^

[Twilightdawn]

Its not really catered to casuals, well, it is by your definition but only because your definition of casual is someone who can play 2 nights a week. most people can do that and be 12/12 with the right guild, doesn't mean your casual per-say , If it was catered for casuals it would be really easy, so that a guild could get geared from heroics, go into raids, and get pretty far in, all in one night.

[DavidSoMighty]

Sounds to me like you have missed half the tier. Hardmodes.

Ya, and thankfully blizzard also gives me enough time to get to them with the delay of Firelands. So win/win

[Easo]

I agree fully!

[Gunslinger]

Well what did you expect happened when 10s = 25s in difficulty(they need to up 25s), loot and lockdown. It reduced raid times in half just with the lockdown. And with the extra items popping up in 25s you should get geared up in no time.

[Deleted]

Sounds to me like you have missed half the tier. Hardmodes.

Some people just want to see normal content. For me, those hardmodes are not part of a tier or whatever. They are for people who want a second playthrough. Basically they play the same thing twice, on a harder mode.

OT: Congrats^^ Finally someone who doesn't complain.

[DavidSoMighty]

Well what did you expect happened when 10s = 25s in difficulty(they need to up 25s), loot and lockdown. It reduced raid times in half just with the lockdown. And with the extra items popping up in 25s you should get geared up in no time.

I'm gonna have to disagree only because i feel that i don't want to have to double my raiding up to 4 nights a week. I mean gosh, my wife would kill me!

[Asmodejjj]

Well what did you expect happened when 10s = 25s in difficulty(they need to up 25s), loot and lockdown. It reduced raid times in half just with the lockdown. And with the extra items popping up in 25s you should get geared up in no time.

It's actually the opposite. 10 man's are harder than 25's, and if you don't believe me, check out wowprogress.com.


Even if they cater to casuals, this is still the hardest tier by far.....

[Chaoslux]

Its not really catered to casuals, well, it is by your definition but only because your definition of casual is someone who can play 2 nights a week. most people can do that and be 12/12 with the right guild, doesn't mean your casual per-say , If it was catered for casuals it would be really easy, so that a guild could get geared from heroics, go into raids, and get pretty far in, all in one night.

His defiently his casual is good. Yours isnt.

Saying "If it was catered to casuals it would be really easy", that not catered to casuals. That's catering to BAD PLAYERS.

Casual one and ONLY definition is someone that does not have as much of a time investment as someone who is more hardcore, such as only being able to play 2 nights a week is casual. Only being able to play say 10 hours a week is casual, even if that's split in 3 nights of 3 hours.

Again:

Catered to casuals means you dont have to take 40 hours a week to not hit a brick wall.
Catered to baddies means the content is very easy and also very boring to alot of people because some dimwits refused to learn how to play.

[Deleted]

Not catered to casuals, just allows the more casual player to experince the content that blizz have worked so hard on. The heroics is where the top guilds are and they are hard. Thats for the "Hard-core". However, I'm inclined to belive that the hard mode of hard modes (Sinestra) is too easy as many guilds have gotten "I can't hear you over the sound of how awesome I am" and even moe have killed it. I however, have not. I'm slowly progressing through the hardmodes now and I tip my hat to blizzard. They've gotten it right this time.

[Necronium]

I do normal modes and then stop. Honestly, I don't need to do all the bosses again. Ive already seen them once, why do them again?
I can just run normal modes and gear up another char if I want to raid again. Time over for other stuff or for more leveling, which is why I love the current raid setups.

Besides, once a char is fully geared from a Normal raid, they should be ready for the normal modes in Firelands once they release.

[fengosa]

Not catered to casuals, just allows the more casual player to experince the content that blizz have worked so hard on. The heroics is where the top guilds are and they are hard. Thats for the "Hard-core". However, I'm inclined to belive that the hard mode of hard modes (Sinestra) is too easy as many guilds have gotten "I can't hear you over the sound of how awesome I am" and even moe have killed it. I however, have not. I'm slowly progressing through the hardmodes now and I tip my hat to blizzard. They've gotten it right this time.

Actually the first guild just got that achieve that a few weeks back. I'm assuming the amount of guilds who have done it is still single digits.

[Gunslinger]

It's actually the opposite. 10 man's are harder than 25's, and if you don't believe me, check out wowprogress.com.


Even if they cater to casuals, this is still the hardest tier by far.....

I think you miss-read me, when I said "they need to up 25s" I meant that they needed to increase the difficulty of 25man HC so that it's on-par with 10man HC.

[Asmodejjj]

I think you miss-read me, when I said "they need to up 25s" I meant that they needed to increase the difficulty of 25man HC so that it's on-par with 10man HC.

I'm sorry, my brain must've gone all wonky :P

[Malania]

It's actually the opposite. 10 man's are harder than 25's, and if you don't believe me, check out wowprogress.com.


Even if they cater to casuals, this is still the hardest tier by far.....

Doesn't really prove they're harder, just that more people prefer 25's.

I've done all 10 and 25 content on normal and 10 is far easier with the exception of Cho'gall. They got really shitty balancing in comparison to 25.

[LeBoucher]

I can sum up this thread by saying none of you have ever fully enjoyed a classic MMO. Possibly never played one.

The game was fine as it was before 3.2 Blizzard could have focused on adding more content and creating new kinds of content, but instead they decided to screw their existing fanbase over to make way for the mass wave of casuals.

What the hell do I care though? I quit giving my money to Blizzard months ago. Have fun!

[DavidSoMighty]

This is like...a congregation of FaceBook gamers. My eyes burn as though someone had poured vinegar in them.
I can sum up this thread by saying none of you have ever fully enjoyed a classic MMO. Possibly never played one.

The game was fine as it was before 3.3.5. Blizzard could have focused on adding more content and creating new kinds of content, but instead they decided to screw their existing fanbase over to make way for the mass wave of casuals.

What the hell do I care though? I quit giving my money to Blizzard months ago. Have fun!

The game was fine until 3.3.5? Wasn't that Ruby Sanctum? I really expected a "Pre-BC or GTFO" from your first paragraph.

But, what is a Facebook Gamer? Because I've never even touched farmville.

[Deleted]

With efficient time-management you could always succeed in WoW without playing more than 20 hours a week.