New CPU or am i doing it wrong?

[Shandriss]

Right now i am using a AMD Phenom II X6 1090t BE with asus 6870 on a M4A88T-M/USB3 and g skills ripsaw 1600mhz 8 gb
i play 25 man raids and use all my settings at high. in raid combat (25) i drop to anywhere from 20-30 which is way too low for the money i put in this system and have tried everything to get the best i can out of it from overclocking to better cooling. no luck
So from my hardware that i have listed above it only seems to me that the CPU is way underpowered
iv heard some people using the i5 2500k and get my same situation but with 70+ fps... which is what i want

if i were to "upgrade" to the i5 2500k use the same video card, ram and use a popular sandy bridge board. will i get this FPS boost
or is there something im missing all together with this AMD?

sorry if its kind of ranty but i spent quite a bit of cash on this system to only get a few extra fps more than a old P4 processor
any help/tips is appreciated

[Doomfingers]

Try without shadows one raid, i think that is your problem.

[Shandriss]

nope i can turn all settings to lowest same fps in raid combat

[ispano]

Both would help. Shadows can drop any system to its knees. And Sandy Bridge just outdoes anything AMD currently has out clock for clock. The only reason to get the Phenom X6 over an i5 right now is you only do heavy multitasking that won't benefit from HyperThreading. If it did, the i7 2600K would be better. If you built the system recently, you didn't do enough research.

Also, you may not get a huge boost, if something else is causing problems. Like bad GPU drivers, or addons causing issues, or something else.

[Shandriss]

Both would help. Shadows can drop any system to its knees. And Sandy Bridge just outdoes anything AMD currently has out clock for clock. The only reason to get the Phenom X6 over an i5 right now is you only do heavy multitasking that won't benefit from HyperThreading. If it did, the i7 2600K would be better. If you built the system recently, you didn't do enough research.

Also, you may not get a huge boost, if something else is causing problems. Like bad GPU drivers, or addons causing issues, or something else.

yeah i play games 90% of the time on this machine mostly wow
no need for multitasking
i will probably get an i5 with mobo mid may
thanks for the help!

[Kouki]

Id ask if your just running wow?

If your running wow and say something like youtube, you will drop fps until you do the following.

Right click anywhere in the video, click settings, go through the setting options and uncheck "Enable Hardware Acceleration".

What is happening in that example is wow wants all of your gpu, and Flash wants it all as well, however after you uncheck this box
Everything is normal your fps goes back up when watching a video at the same time.

[vesseblah]

This is how much performance boost you should expect from moving to i5-2500K from AMD



Notice that it does not double your framerate, so something else is still going wrong. Switch on "triple buffering" from the advanced video options of WoW and make sure you have "let program decide" set on everything in the Catalyst Control Center.

[Kouki]

This is how much performance boost you should expect from moving to i5-2500K from AMD



Notice that it does not double your framerate, so something else is still going wrong. Switch on "triple buffering" from the advanced video options of WoW and make sure you have "let program decide" set on everything in the Catalyst Control Center.

What about the i7 950 and the i7 990?

[Deleted]

somthing is wrong there,
I am running Ultra settings and able to get a sold 60 FPS at 1920x1080 on a
AMD Phenom II 555 BE(3.2ghz) OC Clocked to 3.8 ghz
8gb DDR2,
XFX radeon 5770.

Have you tired enabling the DX11 Functions ? Expand a shortcut to the wow.exe with "-d3d11".
also you dont mention what speed your processor is running as the Phenom II X6 1090t BE seems to come in various clock speeds from my brief searching. wow is very dependadnt on Processor speed. and the BE Chips are fantastic to OC (sems to be what was in mind with them as there multiplier unlocked)

Have you also alt tabbed out to see if anything chewing more processor power than wow when you go ingot task manager ?

[vesseblah]

What about the i7 950 and the i7 990?

i7-950 is worse than i7-975 and i7-990x is better than i7-980x, both due to clock speed difference since there's no change in architecture. In both cases the difference is around 5%. Doesn't need rocket surgery to place those in the chart. i7-950 would be at ~98 below 975, and i7-990x at ~112 between 980x and i7-2600K.

[Shandriss]

Id ask if your just running wow?

If your running wow and say something like youtube, you will drop fps until you do the following.

Right click anywhere in the video, click settings, go through the setting options and uncheck "Enable Hardware Acceleration".

What is happening in that example is wow wants all of your gpu, and Flash wants it all as well, however after you uncheck this box
Everything is normal your fps goes back up when watching a video at the same time.

yeah i have that unchecked previously
i dont think it has anything to do with the GPU it only uses 35-45% of the clock in raid combat

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somthing is wrong there,
I am running Ultra settings and able to get a sold 60 FPS at 1920x1080 on a
AMD Phenom II 555 BE(3.2ghz) OC Clocked to 3.8 ghz
8gb DDR2,
XFX radeon 5770.

Have you tired enabling the DX11 Functions ? Expand a shortcut to the wow.exe with "-d3d11".
also you dont mention what speed your processor is running as the Phenom II X6 1090t BE seems to come in various clock speeds from my brief searching. wow is very dependadnt on Processor speed. and the BE Chips are fantastic to OC (sems to be what was in mind with them as there multiplier unlocked)

Have you also alt tabbed out to see if anything chewing more processor power than wow when you go ingot task manager ?

i have the CPU at 4.0ghz with 1.42500 voltage any higher it crashes the temp is about 36c (overclocking doesnt seem to help much compared to stock)
there's nothing in running background (i make sure of that)
dx11 is on

[Kouki]

yeah i have that unchecked previously
i dont think it has anything to do with the GPU it only uses 35-45% of the clock in raid combat

---------- Post added 2011-04-22 at 07:57 AM ----------



i have the CPU at 4.0ghz with 1.42500 voltage any higher it crashes the temp is about 36c (overclocking doesnt seem to help much compared to stock)
there's nothing in running background (i make sure of that)
dx11 is on

Dx 11 is experimental, the problem i get with it is alt tabbing takes longer or needs to be double done to work.
Disable Dx11 go back to defaults, and the same thing happens in the new ptr with the dx11 option toggle, almost no performance improvement for me at least.

I never droped below my monitors max fps no matter how my settings were and how many ppl im raiding with.

Asus Sabertooth X58
i7 950 "Stock 3.07"
6gigs Kingston HyperX ddr3 Tripple ch ram "Stock 1066"
HiS Radeon 5870 HD "Stock speeds"

The machine runs any game any benchmark at the limit of my monitor.
Which is a carry over from my last rig, and caps at 75hz.

I jumped and spun during a 25 man and the fps meeter diped to the lowest 55 fps.
And any other spins stayed at 60.

[ispano]

At what resolution.

[Kouki]

At what resolution.

If you mean mine, the max i can do with this monitor is 1280x1024.

[ispano]

And that would explain having a stable FPS.

[vesseblah]

If you mean mine, the max i can do with this monitor is 1280x1024.

If you played with modern 1920x1080 screen, you'd be seeing 30-40fps speeds like everybody else...

[Kouki]

And that would explain having a stable FPS.

Would i be wrong to assume "lol" that Say an asus brand 24inch or so, led backlight, running 120hz would lose any fps at its max rez?

[Deleted]

Would i be wrong to assume "lol" that Say an asus brand 24inch or so, led backlight, running 120hz would lose any fps at its max rez?

depending on what "max res" is yes. Again wow is a processor hungry game, the same with any game, the more resolution you want it to do the more processor speed it needs. I see a noticible difference in FPS when switching between my unbranded 60hz 22" Flatscreen at 1680x1050 to when im on a 40" LCD TV @ 1920x1080 at 60hz

[ispano]

Yeah, resolution plays a large part. I run at 2560x1600, Even with Shadows off, I cannot get 60 fps everywhere. I drop that res to what you have, and it never moves.

[vesseblah]

I see a noticible difference in FPS when switching between my unbranded 60hz 22" Flatscreen at 1680x1050 to when im on a 40" LCD TV @ 1920x1080 at 60hz

1/6 difference in number of pixels on screen, means 1/6 difference in framerate. 1280x1024 has only about half of the pixels, meaning double framerate. Huge difference.