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  1. #81
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vadesh View Post
    Let's see:

    Arcane Blast
    Arcane Missiles
    Arcane Barage

    Mirror Images
    Arcane Power
    The one that makes your next spell an instant cast
    Mana gem
    Evocation

    That's 8. Not very much.
    That's only 6 if you macro in the two dps increasing spells into Arcane Blast since the don't go on the GCD for arcane.

  2. #82
    This is kinda a hard question to answer, since it depends on spec, play style, etc. Pretty much everyone has a lot of key binds, especially the higher up you go in competitive pvp. I thought I would get serious about arena in 4.0.6, then I tried to bind my abilities to be in easy reach, and failed horribly.

    First time I ever thought about buying a better gaming mouse. Still might, my friend loves his.

  3. #83
    Quote Originally Posted by Sathen View Post
    This is kinda a hard question to answer, since it depends on spec, play style, etc. Pretty much everyone has a lot of key binds, especially the higher up you go in competitive pvp.
    Bull**** flag thrown.

    Some of the highest-rated people I've ever had the opportunity to watch play had fairly few keybinds, at least compared to myself (feral engineer solo pvper).

    Check Neilyo's recent video or any of the long-term high-rated ferals, like whatsisname and the other guy. Sorry I'm a bit tipsy.

  4. #84
    Quote Originally Posted by coldbear View Post
    Bull**** flag thrown.

    Some of the highest-rated people I've ever had the opportunity to watch play had fairly few keybinds, at least compared to myself (feral engineer solo pvper).

    Check Neilyo's recent video or any of the long-term high-rated ferals, like whatsisname and the other guy. Sorry I'm a bit tipsy.
    Well, sorry, I just gave my opinion

  5. #85
    Never understood why people say ''more keybinds = more skills''

    /sigh

    I personnaly thought only the result was important. If you have 60+ keybinds? 20-30 keybinds? 7 maybe? maybe you click? I don't think it really matters at this point if you still win.

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    To all of you who say that an Arcane mage only have a few keybinds. Bugger off.
    Why on earth would an arcane mage only bind his or hers offensive abillities? An arcane mage has no use of CoC, nova, sheep, remove curse, ice block, mana shield or any other defensive abillity. Nono. Arcane mages are like glass canons - yes they nuke the shit out of you, but if you get within 10 yards of them, they die simply by poking them.
    Wake up, morons.

    And no, I don't pvp as arcane, I pvp as fire.

    l2whine.

    OT: I have every single abillity bound. Every. But it doesn't matter how many you have - You can still perform without.

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    I think of all the characters I have my ret has the least binds:

    Crusader Strike
    Templar's Verdict
    Inquis
    WoG
    Divine Shield
    Divine Protection
    Hand of Protection
    Hand of Freedom
    Cleanse
    Judgement
    Repentance
    Hammer of Wrath
    Wings
    Zeaoltry
    Rebuke
    Racial
    Guardian
    Exorcism
    Turn Evil mouseover macro + glyph ()

    Think that is it - as far as basic bindings go. I'll post my other character's keybinds just for the sake of it.

    Rogue:
    Hemorrhage
    Backstab
    Eviscerate
    Rupture
    Slice n Dice
    Kidney Shot
    Recuperate
    Shiv
    Ambush
    Garrotte
    Cheap Shot
    Evasion
    Disarm
    Sprint
    Combat Readiness
    Cloak
    Vanish
    Sprint
    Premeditation
    Shadowstep
    Smoke Bomb
    Redirect
    Shadow Dance
    Preparation
    Gouge
    Blind
    Deadly Throw
    Sap
    Stealth
    Kick

    Shadow Priest:
    Shadow Word: Pain
    Vampiric Touch
    Devouring Plague
    Mind Blast
    Mind Flay
    Mindspike
    Dark Archangel
    Fade
    Shield
    Prayer of Mending
    Renew
    Life Grip
    Psychic Horror
    Psychic Scream
    Dispersion
    Silence
    Shackle Undead
    Fiend

    Shaman (Enh):
    Unleash Elements
    Stormstrike
    Lava Lash
    Lighting Shield
    Wolves
    Shamanistic Rage
    Totems (standard 4)
    Flame Shock
    Earth Shock
    Frost Shock
    Wind Shear
    Stoneclaw Totem
    Grounding Totem
    Tremor Totem
    Ghost Wolf
    Hex
    Healing Rain
    Purge
    Greater Healing Wave
    Lightning Bolt
    Spritwalker's Grace
    Lava Burst

    I also have a feral who has a ton of binds and I don't feel like listing them all. Hope I helped.
    Last edited by Searsha; 2011-05-30 at 01:34 PM.

  8. #88
    Quote Originally Posted by Sunslayer View Post
    I would say hands down a Frost DK. You only use a few buttons most of the time and you dont have a massive amount or or even a large amount of situational buttons. I think on my Frost DK I actually went through my spellbook 5 times because it didnt seem possible I couldnt even fill my action bars. I have gaps and holes everywhere which is nice when you want an easy spec that is also overly strong.

    On my Hunter and priest I have combined quite a few situational buttons to make room because it was simply overwhelming. Ret also has a lot of situational and targeting macros needed. DKs do not offer much in the way of casting anything on others so you dont need to topple that hill. Being a DPS that has 99.90% sefl-only abilities makes the class easierto manage and play.
    Yup with you entirely. When setting up a dk on tourn, i actually spent 15 minutes looking through my spellbook because i thought i was missing a bunch of binds.
    Had already set up all the focus macros etc as well.
    Colour my life with the chaos of trouble.

  9. #89
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vadesh View Post
    Let's see:

    Arcane Blast
    Arcane Missiles
    Arcane Barage

    Mirror Images
    Arcane Power
    The one that makes your next spell an instant cast
    Mana gem
    Remove curse
    Slow fall
    Evocation

    That's 8. Not very much.
    Counterspell
    Mana shield
    Ice lance
    Fire blast
    Ring of frost
    Blizzard
    Arcane explosion
    Invisibility
    Cone of cold
    Time warp
    Focus magic
    Ice block
    Polymorph
    Frost nova
    Mage ward
    Scorch
    Arcane brilliance
    Blink
    Frost armor
    Mage armor
    Spellsteal
    Slow
    Frostbolt
    Fireball

    And on top of that, focus macros for some spells like Polymorph, Counterspell etc.
    Last edited by mmocc2b371ec35; 2011-05-30 at 01:39 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tweaker View Post
    8.Nova
    9.Blink
    10.Frostbolt
    11.Icelance

    By now you have killed 12 ppl and 7 pets.
    Clueless pve ppl why do they come to pvp forums?

  11. #91
    Quote Originally Posted by razzapool View Post
    hiya guys i wonder if some1 can help me i recently came back to the game after long break and i want to lvl a new char from scratch to try get myself out of the clicking and keyboard turning habits ive bought myself a naga mouse to try help but i just want a char that doesnt have to many keybinds so if any1 can point in right direction of a class to play without loads binds thanks
    SERIOUSLY PEOPLE?

    Can't you all see the OBVIOUS TROLL BAIT this is?

    Is it that difficult? The spelling? The fact he knows about clicking and keyboard turning? That he bought a "Naga" mouse (AKA fake pay2win) to get "pro"?.

    Anyway, back to my business, I just had to say this.

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    You do realize this is the PvP forums, right? Arcane isnt a very strong PvP spec at all.
    Quote Originally Posted by Validity View Post
    That doesn't mean it's not the simplest spec. People do still play it in battlegrounds for some reason I can't discern.
    We use Arcane mage in our Rated BG
    Last edited by mmoc4c74c5291c; 2011-05-30 at 02:12 PM.

  13. #93
    Quote Originally Posted by Delle View Post
    We use Arcane mage in our Rated BG
    Yah, Arcane is extremely popular in RBG's. RNG crits lead to FC kills.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krimson View Post
    Yah, Arcane is extremely popular in RBG's. RNG crits lead to FC kills.
    Yup, been hit by a 40k arcane blast. Only once and the guy didn't have berserking. Guess he was buffed to the gills or something. (vs 3.6k resi)

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    Like not one person actually mentioned binding trinkets and racials.

    Anyways, this thread has run it's course into the ground.
    Quote Originally Posted by Callace View Post
    Considering you just linked a graph with no data plotted on it as factual evidence, I think Stanton can infer whatever the hell he wants.
    Extraordinary Claims Require Extraordinary Evidence - Sometimes I abbreviate this ECREE

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