Ragnaros defeated night 1?

[Resentful]

sigh

i wonder when more people will relize gear doesnt equal skill

Alright I'll play, It doesn't equal skill no; but it gives a better chance in terms of destroying that certain encounter etc

[cFortyfive]

sigh

i wonder when more people will relize gear doesnt equal skill

It's a simple fact that these encounters are tuned around the premise of being defeatable for those. Where did you read that gear necessarily has anything to do with individual skill.

[Fujisaw]

probally since you said mediocre players in 359. as soon as you put a ilvl in there you were talking about gear.

[Deleted]

Like said so many times yes it was not the final version of the fight etc.

And we actually are Top 20 regarding the 25-man content, and 22 overall in Cataclysm

[Laere]

Pretty sure it will be tuned up upon the release on live.

[Chiasmus]

Common knowledge= Fights on PTR are scaled upwards from low difficulty, so that entire fights can be tested, as opposed to nights of 99% wipes that don't test anything.

Source= ALL PREVIOUS PTRs

Common but complete speculation being passed as fact.

[Zoma]

PTR is undertuned.
Normal mode is easy for 13/13 ilvl 372 guilds.
Hardest phase (p3) didn't come up.
etc.

[Malania]

Bonus: 2nd night of testing on Rag, not first. No guild downed him on first. So defeated in 2 days, on a PTR with broken mechanics and an entire missing phase.

Whine much about shit you haven't tested. Lets face it OP, its gonna take your ass a few months.

[soulkeeperx]

He wasn't spawing any living meteors, that would be like the last phase of LK not spawning the spirits out of his sword

[Tharkkun]

Why do we need a thread like that for every single patch with new raid content who get cleared fast on the PTR ?

Because then we can point out the obvious (due to people not using search) and the 3 pages of replies that will follow saying it's because it's top 20 guilds, etc, etc normal modes without reading any of the 1st page replies!

There's about 9 replies that are completely oblivious to how the PTR works.

[Recondition]

your forgetting these guilds are probably the same ones who got realm/world first 13/13.these arent your average raiding guilds

but at least if your average guild downs ragnaros night 1 blizz is keeping there making everything easymode mindset

What makes you say that? The PTR is open invite and really under tuned.