1. #33101
    Quote Originally Posted by pacox View Post
    His R fixes the CC issue. And the CD on his Q is lowered with auto attacks meaning that building AS on him doesn't hurt. His passive (down 4 hits to proc a double hit) also counts towards lowering the CD on his Q. Land a crit with his Q and he will melt ADCs.
    Like Drathos said. The small buff to the R (CD reset always active) wont change it.

    Not sure about the passive. I prefered the old passive a lot more because you could prepare a gank.

  2. #33102
    I can't help but notice that Nami is becoming an increasingly popular pick in pro plays recently. At least for the SEA and EU region which i watch.

    Nerf incoming soon for popular supports. Sona, Taric, Lulu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrpoker View Post
    Nerf incoming soon for popular supports. Sona, Taric, Lulu.
    Those three supports were already nerfed. Soraka was nerfed a long time ago, and Nunu was nerfed in S3. Janna is recently seeing play after a minor buff and the other supports getting nerfed, same with Nami. Karma, Nidalee, and Teemo are still lackluster supports, even if you buff them. Thresh has yet to be nerfed significantly, but that's due to the nature of his kit, you can't just nerf him numbers wise and see any effect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thallidomaniac View Post
    Those three supports were already nerfed. Soraka was nerfed a long time ago, and Nunu was nerfed in S3. Janna is recently seeing play after a minor buff and the other supports getting nerfed, same with Nami. Karma, Nidalee, and Teemo are still lackluster supports, even if you buff them. Thresh has yet to be nerfed significantly, but that's due to the nature of his kit, you can't just nerf him numbers wise and see any effect.
    Sorry, what i meant was that she might follow in the footsteps of the popular supports and get nerfed.

    Although the nami's i've beens eeing in pro plays tend to be missing their ult more often then not.

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    Nami is possibly as strong as Sona right now. Janna being the top. I don't see Nami being nerfed as it's taken buff, after buff to make her useful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acry View Post
    Nami is possibly as strong as Sona right now. Janna being the top. I don't see Nami being nerfed as it's taken buff, after buff to make her useful.
    Nami is just about on-par balance-wise to Sona. Nami's Q and R being hard-to-land skillshots keep her in check.

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  7. #33107
    feels like nami is the new sona zzzz i only play nami now because her kits are just amazing and you can always win in duels (unless you have ezreal because he goes tears first)

    unless!! its vayne with botrk then its gg...... vayne OP
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  8. #33108
    I'm confused, just had six games as top AD Sion and stomped all of them.

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    Do some of you use the tribunal?

    I did it for the first time yesterday and it was a bit confusing. I skipped three cases simple because I had no idea what to do.

    In all of those three cases was one game that would have been a clear punish (strong raging at a certain player, including strong insults), 1-3 (depending on the case) were unjustified reports and the rest were in the middle ground. Not really bad but probably annoying for everyone in the game.

    If it wouldn't have been for the one really toxic game, I would have chosen pardon.

    Do you go with the majority, so 3 unjustified reports would be a pardon, even though the others were toxic, or do you punish based on that one really toxic game?

  10. #33110
    Quote Originally Posted by Valerean View Post
    I'm confused, just had six games as top AD Sion and stomped all of them.
    That's actually pretty believable. Most people probably have no idea how to lane against an AD Sion because he's seen so rarely. Surprise factor can play a big role in winning lane/winning game. The other day I played against a top lane Warwick for the first time ever and had absolutely no idea what to do. I figured it'd be a pretty easy lane for me but I honestly can't say I beat him convincingly.
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  11. #33111
    Quote Originally Posted by Scaeva View Post
    Do some of you use the tribunal?

    I did it for the first time yesterday and it was a bit confusing. I skipped three cases simple because I had no idea what to do.

    In all of those three cases was one game that would have been a clear punish (strong raging at a certain player, including strong insults), 1-3 (depending on the case) were unjustified reports and the rest were in the middle ground. Not really bad but probably annoying for everyone in the game.

    If it wouldn't have been for the one really toxic game, I would have chosen pardon.

    Do you go with the majority, so 3 unjustified reports would be a pardon, even though the others were toxic, or do you punish based on that one really toxic game?
    a) The Tribunal verdict is not based on a 'majority' rule; there is also no requirement that all games have to be toxic for it to warrant a suspension. Depending on the case, sometimes 1 game is all that is needed to show that the player deserves a suspension. To Tribunal reviewers, decisions like these are up to you. When you view a Tribunal case, the questions you should ask yourselves are, "Is this player's behavior appropriate in League of Legends?" and "Would I want to play with this player?"

    http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/....php?t=2726400
    from that

    hope that helps

  12. #33112
    My friend went from gold 5 to Diamond 5 on his smurf within 74 ranked games, primarily playing jayce mid. His main account is gold 1 where he is stuck. Smurfing with op champs is retarded
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catanowplx View Post
    My friend went from gold 5 to Diamond 5 on his smurf within 74 ranked games, primarily playing jayce mid. His main account is gold 1 where he is stuck. Smurfing with op champs is retarded
    It's not only a question of op champs.

    The (hidden) MMR rises faster than a player can get LP on highly positive win-loss statistic.

    I know it's not the best example but the ex-WoW player and streamer Kungen had his account stuck in Gold 2. His MMR, probably due to him being new to the game at that point, just was at the level that is expected for Gold 2. Therefore his LP gains were really small.

    He levelled a smurf and went on a huge winning streak because he was simple better than the players in his early games. He managed to get that account to Platinum 1 in a really short time, skipping several division in the way because his MMR was so much higher than expected for the leagues he was in.

    Your friend probably plays on diamond niveau even with other champs. The MMR on his main probably is around Gold 5 niveau and did not fluctuate so much due to him being there for a while already. That makes it harder for him to gain the LP to get out of there, despite him having the skill for it.

    I hope I managed to get my point across, I'm not really good at explaining.

    Quote Originally Posted by Acry
    a) The Tribunal verdict is not based on a 'majority' rule; there is also no requirement that all games have to be toxic for it to warrant a suspension. Depending on the case, sometimes 1 game is all that is needed to show that the player deserves a suspension. To Tribunal reviewers, decisions like these are up to you. When you view a Tribunal case, the questions you should ask yourselves are, "Is this player's behavior appropriate in League of Legends?" and "Would I want to play with this player?"

    http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/....php?t=2726400
    from that

    hope that helps
    Thank you, that clarified the issue for me.
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    I have returned! Did I miss anything important (both on LoL and to do with this thread?)

    Sorry for this being a slightly spammy useless post but I missed a fair bit

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    Interesting... Xenon mentioned that Galio might be retooled a bit towards a more supportive role.

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    No complaints! I love support, more supports is great

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    Looking for some high Plat / Diamond advice here.

    I've steadily climbed from Silver 3 to Gold 2. I felt really, really good about my play...until about 4 days ago.

    I cannot, and I mean cannot get myself out of Gold 2. I have tried a multitude of things...from going to my go-to Cait ADC, bowing down and playing a boss support, to opting in for jungle and running Rammus and being literally EVERYWHERE and counter-ganking like a mofo.

    I feel like I'm stuck...I'm no longer hard-carrying like I did during my climb. I can recognize this, but I don't know what to do about it. I feel like it might be a little mix of mechanics and decision-making...I've been to 95/96/97 pts 3 times, and failed 3 promos. I've since dropped back to only 36 pts in Gold 2..losing a shitload of games over the weekend.

    For the most part, it seems as though I'm doing the right things...I'm just looking to get some advice...should I study more streams? Should I play some normals and master some more champs? Should I say f*ck it, Baylife and keep going?


    /signed a frustrated high-gold player looking for a pretty Plat border for S4.
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    Are there any champions at the moment that do great in all lanes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toxigen View Post
    Looking for some high Plat / Diamond advice here.

    I've steadily climbed from Silver 3 to Gold 2. I felt really, really good about my play...until about 4 days ago.

    I cannot, and I mean cannot get myself out of Gold 2. I have tried a multitude of things...from going to my go-to Cait ADC, bowing down and playing a boss support, to opting in for jungle and running Rammus and being literally EVERYWHERE and counter-ganking like a mofo.

    I feel like I'm stuck...I'm no longer hard-carrying like I did during my climb. I can recognize this, but I don't know what to do about it. I feel like it might be a little mix of mechanics and decision-making...I've been to 95/96/97 pts 3 times, and failed 3 promos. I've since dropped back to only 36 pts in Gold 2..losing a shitload of games over the weekend.

    For the most part, it seems as though I'm doing the right things...I'm just looking to get some advice...should I study more streams? Should I play some normals and master some more champs? Should I say f*ck it, Baylife and keep going?


    /signed a frustrated high-gold player looking for a pretty Plat border for S4.
    I am stuck in the same exact boat as you. I hit Gold 1, then immediately went on a losing streak that trashed my mmr and I went all the way down to gold 3. I've only just worked my way back up to Gold 1 as of today and this happened 2 weeks ago. I got from gold 5 -> gold 1 through duo queue adc/support then we just kept losing over and over. I instead started playing mid/top as they are really easy to carry from compared to adc/bot lane and I've gotten back to Gold 1. I think I've just realized that I need to play something i'm comfortable carrying with all the time so that's what i'm doing. It got me back into gold 1 and I hope I finally get into plat

  20. #33120
    Quote Originally Posted by Murphlord View Post
    Are there any champions at the moment that do great in all lanes?
    Elise can go top, mid, jungle, and support. I don't know of anybody that's as diverse as her in terms of roles.

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