- Looks like they took him to some bolt hole in the Wounded Coast.
- I wonder if it's near the Injured Cliffs? Or the Limping Hills? Massive-Head-Trauma-Bay? No? Just me? *sigh* Forget I said anything.
Garen is a god.
I was soloing bot vs a lee sin and chogath, while my partner tried to jungle. Ended up 14-0-6 first time playing. OP much?
on topic of supports:
shield supports are quite powerful at the moment. Lux seems to be one of the most aggressive ones and is also a great asset to the team because of her cc (but you have to hit it :P). Janna works well with an AD heavy team in which you boost one of your champs to take down everyone and get fed early. Karma is my special little pretty girl. I love her. If you know how to play her, you can carry your whole team, because she can do everything and has the highest dmg output (well, maybe Soraka is now higher because of Q-spam, but she hasn't got a shield. Still she's pretty sweet). Taric also is pretty aggressive and if you play him properly with a decent ad carry, a good stun will get you early kills and sometimes initiate in late game fights. Sona is probably the most *solid* choice and easy to learn, though hard to master (like every support champ in my opinion). Spam skills = get assists. Spam skills in the right order with the right timing = win the game.
Garen is powerful, yes, but people really have to stop thinking just because they get fed in a game/even in their first game, said champ is op. In one of my recent games we destroyed our enemies and our mid Morgana kept on saying how OP she was and how good and that this is her first time, etc pp. That their mid just was terrible...she didn't seem to notice.
He is easy to shut down if you're playing against a smart mage/ranged.
Also he scales like shit compared to mages and carries in late game. Just got to play carefully in early-mid and dont let him get kills.
But against stupid/inexperienced people Garen is unstoppable.
Who I really consider OP is Morde, if the player knows him well enough, he is a freaking steamroller. And his damage never seems to go down all game, you don't even need to get AP items.
Sorc boots > Haunting guise >Force of Nature > Sunfire Cloak and even fed champs still die in 1v1 situations against him. Get a Hextech/Rylai/Abyssal scepter in the end just to seal the deal and you'll be godlike...
Last edited by zealous; 2011-08-30 at 06:56 PM.
- Looks like they took him to some bolt hole in the Wounded Coast.
- I wonder if it's near the Injured Cliffs? Or the Limping Hills? Massive-Head-Trauma-Bay? No? Just me? *sigh* Forget I said anything.
Late I had zerkers, 2x blood thirsters and dancing blades.
With his Q scaling at 2.5x AD he is pretty much a beast. Yes I prolly built him wrong, but I had amazing results.
I just wouldn't expect those kind of results on him in late game against experienced people.
Last loss I had with Garen, I felt pretty much impotent late game.
They enemy team was Amumu, Karthus, Veigar, Xin Zhao and Caitlyn. I was the only beefy character on our team and I simply couldn't get to any of them to initiate, too much CC.
Between Karthus' screen and Veigar's Horizon.... stepping forward in a team fight pretty much meant being nuked into oblivion in 2 seconds. Even with Frozen mallet, Mercury treads and Guardian Angel the damage was insane.
And circling for a sneaky gank against those guys wasn't an option either, they were pretty smart.
- Looks like they took him to some bolt hole in the Wounded Coast.
- I wonder if it's near the Injured Cliffs? Or the Limping Hills? Massive-Head-Trauma-Bay? No? Just me? *sigh* Forget I said anything.
- Looks like they took him to some bolt hole in the Wounded Coast.
- I wonder if it's near the Injured Cliffs? Or the Limping Hills? Massive-Head-Trauma-Bay? No? Just me? *sigh* Forget I said anything.
Yalls dislike of Garen makes me a sad rhino.
Garen is pretty OP early game, but he falls of later. He is annoying when I lane against him because of his goddamn passive and his lack of mana.
Actually he does, since I played a lot of time against him. Warwick pretty much smashes everyone 1 vs 1 when he gets his madreds and builds tanky. Well..except jax if I don't get sword of the divine. I went 0/5, and ended up 11/6 against a fed Garen today, all thanks to Madreds :P.Nah... WW doesn't counter Garen.
Jax might, but then again, Jax counters almost every melee dps/assassin.
Last edited by mmoc0f233d9eb1; 2011-08-30 at 07:06 PM.
1. That is assuming you are being allowed to farm/gank more effectively than the Garen. Madred's is an expensive item.
2. I've had contrary experiences, where one quicksilver sash activation made WW pay for even trying to 1v1 me. A full Q>W>E>R mostly ended any "debates" on the matter =)
The clear exception would be if WW also has Lizard buff, which is a very decent damage increase, but then - trying to 1v1 him is pretty stupid for almost any champion.
Not saying WW can't 1v1 Garen, just saying he's not a counter to Garen until maybe late game when he's very fed imo.
- Looks like they took him to some bolt hole in the Wounded Coast.
- I wonder if it's near the Injured Cliffs? Or the Limping Hills? Massive-Head-Trauma-Bay? No? Just me? *sigh* Forget I said anything.
- Looks like they took him to some bolt hole in the Wounded Coast.
- I wonder if it's near the Injured Cliffs? Or the Limping Hills? Massive-Head-Trauma-Bay? No? Just me? *sigh* Forget I said anything.