Living Embers

[Phoef]

Hi,

On the frontpage theres a updated VP lootables, what i miss are the living embers, they are not for sale?

[jacce]

At the moment, no, the valor vendors do not sell them. It's still pretty unclear where the embers will come from, trash or bosses or both?
And at what rate? I'm still hoping that they add the embers to the valor vendor but we are running out of time..

[Phoef]

Yeah indeed, its a bit strange if they would only drop from bosses right?

one person needs 4 for one epic, and the legendary requires 25.

[Alvito]

Im pretty sure you need 25 to make the epic, just like you needed 25 primordial saronite upfront for the first version of the axe. Looking at the order of the quest chain you get a quest to turn in 25 then 2 quests after that you get the branch for the staff and then the epic.

[Geomatician]

Living Embers are not a requirement for the Legendary Staff. Or any Epic version of the staff either.

http://ptr.wowhead.com/quest=29135

[Alvito]

http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/71141/eternal-ember/
Is the item in the most recent version of the quest chain, good catch.

[Geomatician]

All-Seeing Eye
Objective - Collect 25 Living Embers from Firelands and 3 Sands of Time.
Description - I perceive the questions that burn within your mind and I must confess that I share in your uncertainty... a rare position for one such as I, and a most unsettling one. As I scour time to find traces of this obscured event, you must aid me in the creation of an Eye, both to test your worthiness, and to provide an essential tool in the unraveling of this mystery.
Venture into the Plane of Fire, , and gather Living Embers. Bring them to me with Sands of Time and I will create the Eye.

Eternal Ember not Living Ember.

Click my link instead of going to a 1.5 month old description on the front-page.

[Deleted]

I thought that Living Embers and Eternal Embers were the same thing, just named differently in different versions of the patch?

If not, rock on

[Cernunnos]

Living Embers are not a requirement for the Legendary Staff. Or any Epic version of the staff either.

http://ptr.wowhead.com/quest=29135

The quest text on that WOWhead page is wrong I believe, unless they are different names ofr the same thing.

http://ptr.wowhead.com/item=69237#reagent-for

[Geomatician]

The quest text on that WOWhead page is wrong I believe.

http://ptr.wowhead.com/item=69237#reagent-for

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2661226893

Actual people who have the quest on the PTR are confirming not only does the quest say Eternal Ember but they acquired them when they killed Ragnaros 25 man.

Living Ember = Craftables

Eternal Ember = Legendary quest item like Seething Cinders.

[takolin]

Am I the only one who thinks it's silly that we need to collect items twice where the source is the same but they just have a different name?

Both eternal embers and the seething cinders are only obtainable from raidbosses.

[Cernunnos]

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2661226893

Actual people who have the quest on the PTR are confirming not only does the quest say Eternal Ember but they acquired them when they killed Ragnaros 25 man.

Living Ember = Craftables

Eternal Ember = Legendary quest item like Seething Cinders.

Cool.

Yeah after some link hopping on WOW head I found my error.

http://ptr.wowhead.com/item=69237#objective-of

WOWhead fail. Shouldn't believe everything you read on WOWhead. Still it's more accurate than most websites.

[Weightless]

Living Embers are not a requirement for the Legendary Staff. Or any Epic version of the staff either.

http://ptr.wowhead.com/quest=29135

Same thing, Living Embers, Eternal Embers, the point stays the same. Whatever the Primordial Saronite equivalent is. It'll be a bit weird if it only dops from bosses, when you need 25 for the legendary and you need 4 for craftables.

[Deleted]

Living Embers are not a requirement for the Legendary Staff. Or any Epic version of the staff either.

then obv hes got them mixed up with eternal embers...

[Geomatician]

Am I the only one who thinks it's silly that we need to collect items twice where the source is the same but they just have a different name?

Both eternal embers and the seething cinders are only obtainable from raidbosses.

Yes but it was more silly to expect people to pay insanely inflated prices for 25 items that could be used to create craftables for pieces of other gear that need upgrading.

This way its x50 items based on rng making it possibly take longer or randomise a bit who will get the first on the realm.

Would have been nice to have x25 items come from a different source.

Anyway even though the ptr tag is release it could still change right before live.

---------- Post added 2011-06-13 at 11:38 AM ----------

then obv hes got them mixed up with eternal embers...

Living Embers were a requirement up until last week for the Legendary Quest so I doubt he got mixed up he just hadn't seen the change.

---------- Post added 2011-06-13 at 11:40 AM ----------

Same thing, Living Embers, Eternal Embers, the point stays the same. Whatever the Primordial Saronite equivalent is. It'll be a bit weird if it only dops from bosses, when you need 25 for the legendary and you need 4 for craftables.

Living Embers and Eternal Embers are not the same thing.

http://ptr.wowhead.com/item=71141

http://ptr.wowhead.com/item=69237

[Weightless]

Yes but it was more silly to expect people to pay insanely inflated prices for 25 items that could be used to create craftables for pieces of other gear that need upgrading.

This way its x50 items based on rng making it possibly take longer or randomise a bit who will get the first on the realm.

Would have been nice to have x25 items come from a different source.

Anyway even though the ptr tag is release it could still change right before live.

---------- Post added 2011-06-13 at 11:38 AM ----------



Living Embers were a requirement up until last week for the Legendary Quest so I doubt he got mixed up he just hadn't seen the change.

---------- Post added 2011-06-13 at 11:40 AM ----------



Living Embers and Eternal Embers are not the same thing.

http://ptr.wowhead.com/item=71141

http://ptr.wowhead.com/item=69237

You don't get it. It doesn't matter what the fuck it's called, we're talking about the Primordial Saronite equivalent. I know they aren't the same thing, that doesn't mean the OP's point is moot. It'll still be weird if the item that you need 4 of and 25 of for the legendary only drops from bosses.

[takolin]

Yes but it was more silly to expect people to pay insanely inflated prices for 25 items that could be used to create craftables for pieces of other gear that need upgrading.

This way its x50 items based on rng making it possibly take longer or randomise a bit who will get the first on the realm.

Would have been nice to have x25 items come from a different source.

Anyway even though the ptr tag is release it could still change right before live.

Not more silly than the 25 primordial saronites assuming the embers would've been BoE and purchasable from VPs.

[Geomatician]

You don't get it. It doesn't matter what the fuck it's called, we're talking about the Primordial Saronite equivalent. I know they aren't the same thing, that doesn't mean the OP's point is moot. It'll still be weird if the item that you need 4 of and 25 of for the legendary only drops from bosses.

I wasn't talking to the OP I was talking to the person who was saying it's a requirement for the legendary.

Also when did I say the OP's point was moot. Stop trying to create an argument from absolutely nothing.

[Methnor]

So, wait a second: Now there are TWO quests in the legendary questline that require you to gather 25x (or whatever) Firelands-boss only quest drops?

[Cernunnos]

So, wait a second: Now there are TWO quests in the legendary questline that require you to gather 25x (or whatever) Firelands-boss only quest drops?

There always was. Same as Shadowmourne.

Eternal Ember (25) = Primordial Saronite (25)
Seething Cinder (25) = Shadowfrost shard (50)

Only difference is with the saronites you could at least buy them from a vendor.