4.2 Normal Mode Arcane BiS

[Trixzy]

As I understood after some testing the 4pc proved to be not as as bad as initially calculated and it's definitively worth it right now.

[Eschatonin]

Answered in the other thread you asked about this Zack

http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...ur-4pT11/page2

[Vexxe]

I'll do a few sims on the new version as soon as it's able to work on my comp. I could sims on the old version, but it just wouldn't be right.

My personal guess would be DMC + VPLC solely due to DMC having 100 extra average int, while mirror has 100 extra average mastery.

I have heroic Theralions mirror nad DMC:V and MWC might be getting Vlpc next week. would you recommend Heroic TM and MWC or Vlpc/H:TM

[Eschatonin]

VPLC and H TM.

Edit: H TM is only behind Shard of Woe and H VPLC, so you've got it good for someone without Shard.

[Firehands]

When you break T11 4 piece Haste is slightly better than mastery, says SimC

[Eschatonin]

When you break T11 4 piece Haste is slightly better than mastery, says SimC

Haste until haste cap, of course. There have been quite a few numbers thrown around, so I'm just going to say to group up with a haste buff, get 4 stacks of AB, blow lust and see if your casts are 1 second.

[Nat400]

Am I correct in saying that the list for Arcane trinkets now is

Shard of Woe > H:VLPC > H:TM > VLPC > MWC/DMC > TM > others

[Swizzle]

Am I correct in saying that the list for Arcane trinkets now is

Shard of Woe > H:VLPC > H:TM > VLPC > MWC/DMC > TM > others

Yes, you would be correct in that assumption.

[foxkoby]

Where does the JC trinket fits there?

[Ellesarr]

You can get a not horrible idea by adding the gear available to you in rawr and running an optimize.

[foxkoby]

Rawr and trinkets, don't get along too well I think.

[Eschatonin]

Dont. Use. Rawr.
Unless you want to perform sub-par.

[Dagolar]

do you have some advice on when to use MWC and when DMC:V? or is there any special conditions to prefer one over the other?
my second trinket is HTM. on forums i see all the time arguments for MWC over DMC:V and the other way around...

im asking cause i think you changed trinket to DMC in your latest BiS, didnt you?

[Trixzy]

Dmc:v > mwc.

[Eschatonin]

DMC (reforged to hit to make up for lack of hit on rest of gear) > MWC > DMC

I'll be honest, I havent gotten around to much work on my list in a while.

[Dagolar]

fair enough!

thanks

[Doorki]

Dont. Use. Rawr.
Unless you want to perform sub-par.

What do you use rather than Rawr? I'm always in the market for a better option.

[Eschatonin]

Load your sets up into Simulationcraft, 25k iterations, and you have an accurate result.

[Eschatonin]

Confirming that this list is indeed correct. You end up hit capped and 50 haste rating away from the haste cap. DMC is required to reach the hitcap, so it's BiS in normal mode gear. If you have P1 of the legendary, you will be able to go well over the haste and hit caps, and be able to use Moonwell Chalice instead of DMC.