Why so much hate on Java?

[holyforce]

I don't understand why there is so much hating on java, its a wonderful development platform, people say its slow compared to C++. Witch in fact is not as true as it used to be. they are near each other in the performance department. I admit java can be resource Hungry(if you play on a toaster) or if the program is coded poorly(IE not up to standards set by oracle.)

what do you guys think?

[Saithes]

It's bloated and inefficient usually which is why.

[Yohassakura]

No idea! Personally, I like making "simple" programs in Java
I get the feeling that you're confined to less parameters compared to VB for example, when you don't actually need a proper interface with sparkly buttons everywhere.

[Serissa]

VERY slowly loading browser plugin is biggest problem in my opinion (for actual program, not silly script).
Same as very slow interpretation every time you run "program".

Performance of program is fine but it takes ages to run browser plugin then more ages to actually run program.

[Asera]

It's bloated and inefficient usually which is why.

This, pretty much.

When optimized, Java programs run fairly well. Problem is, Sun/Oracle put in oodles of tools for developers to be lazy, which when they are, causes programs and web apps to be. Very. Slow.

[Deleted]

Its solid for simple purpose applications where cross-platform support is the essential component. But because of its fairly inefficient resource use, it doesn't work well for heavy applications.

Most languages are compiled to operate directly against the underlying processor architecture. Some even allow parts of the code to manually be written in Assembler, rather than relying on the Compiler to do it for you. By contrast, Java only runs against another program (an interpreter), and only that in turn runs against the processor itself. Its a slow, and should be obvious inefficient method of running software. The overhead is simply huge. Its somewhat reminiscent of permanently running a VM/Emulator.

[Cows For Life]

I don't understand why there is so much hating on java, its a wonderful development platform, people say its slow compared to C++. Witch in fact is not as true as it used to be. they are near each other in the performance department. I admit java can be resource Hungry(if you play on a toaster) or if the program is coded poorly(IE not up to standards set by oracle.)

what do you guys think?

It _is_ slow and resource hungry compared to native code. It also requires a huge runtime/virtual machine to run and it's not nice to add more requirements for end users.