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10man guilds are not 25man guilds that cherry picked 10 players. They are 10man guilds that in effect have at most 14 players that are raid ready. In extreme cases a bit more. It can not be "oh, I have 40 players, let's pick 1 moonkin, one mage" etc. etc.
Get that well in your brain. Very well in your brain.
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2011-07-23, 12:20 PM #1Deleted
Paragon, do me a favour and don't propagate the BS about 10man being "easy".
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2011-07-23, 12:22 PM #2Scarab Lord
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Do we need another thread on this...? Couldn't you just stick to the other threads that are already on this topic instead of making another flame fest!
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2011-07-23, 12:23 PM #3Field Marshal
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How many dogs does shannox have on 25? just sayin
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2011-07-23, 12:24 PM #4DeletedHypocritical considering you just started an off topic flame.
Originally Posted by crackleslap
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2011-07-23, 12:25 PM #5Pandaren Monk
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Hypocritical considering you started a topic that would just turn into a flamefest because you're either mad or bitter. But probably you're just being both. Originally Posted by tobindax
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2011-07-23, 12:26 PM #6DeletedYou don't even know what hypocritical means. Originally Posted by Sanctioned
Open a dictionary.
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2011-07-23, 12:28 PM #7High Overlord
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I don't think he wants to start a debate about 10/25 again. He's pointing out what Paragon just did. They have the 25-30 best raiders in the world. Imagine taking the 10 best players of the 25 best players and you will then have an elite group of people. Ofcourse they can faceroll 10man content, since they've done it all in 25man and are the best in the world at it.
I'm not gonna defend either 10 nor 25man here, but OP is right.
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2011-07-23, 12:28 PM #8Warchief
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well this thread seems to be progressing nicely. popcorn time? i think so.
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2011-07-23, 12:30 PM #9The Patient
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Also, they're all like "25man took hundreds of tries, but 10man was only 32". That's pure BS.
Of course it will take a lot less tries if 25 of their players have mastered the 25-man mode. Yes, the tactic does change, but still its the same fight and after killing the 25-man version, you basically master most of the 10-man version aswell.
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2011-07-23, 12:30 PM #10DeletedExactly, and it's not just about Paragon. Originally Posted by Ansto
Every 25man guild that says 10man is easy because they cherry picked 2 10mans and discarded a few players and then even had the comfort to shuffle players between them do not have the right to say it's "easy".
Try from a pool of 10-14 players, then come and say it's "easy".
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2011-07-23, 12:31 PM #11Deleted
As the only guild in the world to have killed Rag HC on 10 and 25, I think what they say is much more convincing than 10 man fan boys. Face it 10 man is easier
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2011-07-23, 12:32 PM #12Bloodsail Admiral
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[QUOTE=crackleslap; making another flame fest![/QUOTE]
It's about Firelands, what else did you expect?Never look into the eyes of a horse.
Your soul will forever be lost in the void of a horse.
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2011-07-23, 12:33 PM #13Herald of the Titans
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or maybe after 500+ attempts on 25 man heroic, and then only having 10 players go in and do 10 man, it just seemed a lot easier to them? Originally Posted by Alexi
As the only guild in the world to have killed Rag HC on 10 and 25, I think what they say is much more convincing than 10 man fan boys. Face it 10 man is easier
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2011-07-23, 12:33 PM #14DeletedI can't give a rat's ass what they did. If they are wrong they wrong. If you have made a religion around Paragon, it's not my problem. Originally Posted by Alexi
As the only guild in the world to have killed Rag HC on 10 and 25, I think what they say is much more convincing than 10 man fan boys. Face it 10 man is easier
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2011-07-23, 12:33 PM #15The Patient
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I think the point the OP is trying to make is that 10man raids are just as challenging, and he doesn't like the stigma that they're easy mode because of a few world class guilds rolling through them after they've practiced on the content on 25man. Originally Posted by Snowe
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2011-07-23, 12:33 PM #16Deleted
tried few bosses on 10man and it looked a lot easier...
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2011-07-23, 12:33 PM #17Stood in the Fire
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Where's this all going... They killed it on 25 world first. Then on 10 world first. Now people are nagging because they toke both so there is nothing left for others?
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2011-07-23, 12:34 PM #18Deleted
I think the fact that they did 500+ wipes on 25 man may have helped them learn the fight somewhat. Making them kill 10 man much faster.
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2011-07-23, 12:34 PM #19Herald of the Titans
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or maybe after 500+ attempts on 25 man heroic, and then only having 10 players go in and do 10 man, it just seemed a lot easier to them? Originally Posted by Alexi
you`re also basing the ease of it on ONE guild defeating Rag, ONE.
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2011-07-23, 12:34 PM #20Brewmaster
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/passes Salty Popcorn to SoulPetry. Originally Posted by SoulPoetry
/flicks shoes in the corner, PHEW they smell.
/puts feet on footstand.
/opens up 2 cans of Heineken, passing 1 to SoulPoetry
/say "Yes indeed, I think we'll be here all night, hope we have enough beer and popcorn."Warlock (SL main)
