Been Waiting A Long Time For This - Blizzard giving us the finger?

[Deleted]

So last night, Monday the 8th of August my newly created guild having merged to horde decided to go on an ICC 10 man drake run for giggles. We managed to get every single one done and then we hit a brick wall on Lich King.

The achievement requires you to stack Necrotic Plague to 30 before defeating the Lich King.
We stacked it to around 36, hitting exactly 30 on the way, before pushing him into the transition phase to phase 2. Upon killing him we got the Neck-Deep in Vile achievement but not the other one. After having a very very long talk with a GM, this is what the response was:

"This achievement is indeed bugged so it is not always rewarded even though you get the criteria done for it. However since our logs does not provide information towards this we cannot confirm that you actually are eligible for this achievement and can therefore not help you."

Are you freaking kidding me?
Blizzard has all this technology and you're telling me they cannot track whether or not Necrotic Plague stacked to 30?
The GM I was talking to was very polite and expressed concern towards this, but in the very end, he basically gave me the finger and said, sorry, can't help you. Both me and my guild leader was extremely aggravated and disappointed by this kind of attitude. He then told us to not bother until it's fixed and focus on other achievements. He dismissed me in a very annoying manner and I feel it's insulting considering the achievement has been here since 3.3.3 and is still bugged out, even though tons of people has it, yet this GM claimed their records does not hold information around debuffs on a player or mob.

What are your thoughts and have this happened to you?

[anothdae]

I feel bad that you did work to a bugged achievement, but realistically I dont want to have to pay for GMs to spend time sorting through combat logs for an achievement from the last expansion. I would rather the GMs focused on people with "real", or at least realer problems.

If this was a server first or something. . .okay. . . but its old, they know its broken, and they will fix it.

[Roguesoldier]

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[Deleted]

I feel bad that you did work to a bugged achievement, but realistically I dont want to have to pay for GMs to spend time sorting through combat logs for an achievement from the last expansion. I would rather the GMs focused on people with "real", or at least realer problems.

If this was a server first or something. . .okay. . . but its old, they know its broken, and they will fix it.

See that's exactly the problem I have. People have reported this since Wrath as a bug, yet they haven't fixed it, but they have the time to make new /roar emotes for all races? I mean, really?

[Deleted]

Are you sure it was Necrotic Plague stacks?
Because people often look at the Lich King stacks aswell

[Jimmichu]

inb4 no one actually cares about you not earning your achievement, they get bugged after its outdated content, how about next time you do it when its concurrent content.

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[Deleted]

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How about a genuine intelligent response? That too hard for you?

[Heartattaq]

it is a shame it didnt work out for you. I had a similar experience where I wasn't rewarded an achievemant I was qualified for, I was basically told by a gm and customer support, even though it can be proven through logs, GM's cant grant achievemants after the fact.

[Roguesoldier]

--------- no

[RageasaurusRex]

Note the following sequence of events:
[23:17:38.589] Unknown Necrotic Plague Drudge Ghoul 50000

(A ghoul is in the mix with a single stack)

[23:17:40.202] Unknown Necrotic Plague Drudge Ghoul 223039 (O: 1226961)

(this is a total of 1,450,000, or 29 stacks)

[23:17:40.224] Drudge Ghoul afflicted by Necrotic Plague (31)

So if the Necrotic Plauge *SKIPS* 30 (i.e. combines with a second stack) the achievement is not triggered.

I suspect that the code for the achievement trigger is listed for (stacks = 30) rather than (stacks >= 30)

[Novamourne]

1st - Please dont ever ask for tracking of these sorts of details. Do you have any clue how much space the servers would have to have to record every little thing that happens to every single person and mob? You know what, never mind the space. Do you have any clue how many extra executions would have to take place each second to record every little thing that happens to every single person and mob? I dislike lag. Storage and process to this extent would DESTROY server performance.

2nd - Just page again. Ive found when it comes to achievements, item restorations, and pretty much anything that who you talk to dictates what kind of help you get. I do it pretty much any time I get told no and I eventually get a gm that says yes unless its something to do with real life money (I once tried to get them to revert a xfer). Im sure a GM that isn't retarded will see you cleared the whole place and got all the other achievements in the same night so the likelihood of it being an achievement run is very high.

[Diablero]

I might be mistaken, but when i raided in Wrath my guild had to do both those achieves in separate lock out times. For some reason it only allowed us to do 1 achieve per boss. IDK if this helps you at all.

[Deleted]

Are you sure it was Necrotic Plague stacks?
Because people often look at the Lich King stacks aswell

We made very sure it was Necrotic plague and not the other buff you're thinking about called Plague Siphon. That was also one of the responses another GM gave one of the others who opened a ticket. We made sure Necrotic Plague was the one stacked to 30.

[Asmodejjj]

Get it again, not like LK isn't faceroll now....

[Deleted]

Note the following sequence of events:
[23:17:38.589] Unknown Necrotic Plague Drudge Ghoul 50000

(A ghoul is in the mix with a single stack)

[23:17:40.202] Unknown Necrotic Plague Drudge Ghoul 223039 (O: 1226961)

(this is a total of 1,450,000, or 29 stacks)

[23:17:40.224] Drudge Ghoul afflicted by Necrotic Plague (31)

So if the Necrotic Plauge *SKIPS* 30 (i.e. combines with a second stack) the achievement is not triggered.

I suspect that the code for the achievement trigger is listed for (stacks = 30) rather than (stacks >= 30)

And it would be fine if it stated that clearly, but it doesn't, which was also something the GM in my original post confirmed and agreed with.

[64bitjedi]

So last night, Monday the 8th of August my newly created guild having merged to horde decided to go on an ICC 10 man drake run for giggles. We managed to get every single one done and then we hit a brick wall on Lich King.

The achievement requires you to stack Necrotic Plague to 30 before defeating the Lich King.
We stacked it to around 36, hitting exactly 30 on the way, before pushing him into the transition phase to phase 2. Upon killing him we got the Neck-Deep in Vile achievement but not the other one. After having a very very long talk with a GM, this is what the response was:

"This achievement is indeed bugged so it is not always rewarded even though you get the criteria done for it. However since our logs does not provide information towards this we cannot confirm that you actually are eligible for this achievement and can therefore not help you."

Are you freaking kidding me?
Blizzard has all this technology and you're telling me they cannot track whether or not Necrotic Plague stacked to 30?
The GM I was talking to was very polite and expressed concern towards this, but in the very end, he basically gave me the finger and said, sorry, can't help you. Both me and my guild leader was extremely aggravated and disappointed by this kind of attitude. He then told us to not bother until it's fixed and focus on other achievements. He dismissed me in a very annoying manner and I feel it's insulting considering the achievement has been here since 3.3.3 and is still bugged out, even though tons of people has it, yet this GM claimed their records does not hold information around debuffs on a player or mob.

What are your thoughts and have this happened to you?

About two months into my play on WoW, I had my account hacked. The GM said he couldn't help me get the character back.

Two years later, my account was hacked again. The GM got me everything back. Every, single, thing. Down to my amount of copper. I jokingly laughed and explained my prior incident with being hacked. So, the GM looked into it. And got me the character back, and every piece of gear and gold she had on her.

GMs are people, too. Some good, some bad. Some care, some don't. I'm sorry you had to deal with one that didn't.

[Layuth]

I believe it is common knowledge and has been for a very long time that you cannot receive credit for both Lich King achievements on the same kill. Hence you need to do the achievements on two different runs.

[Deleted]

--------- no

Then try, instead of this nonsense.

[Diablero]

yea thats what i thought thanks Layuth

[Whoopsa]

So last night, Monday the 8th of August my newly created guild having merged to horde decided to go on an ICC 10 man drake run for giggles. We managed to get every single one done and then we hit a brick wall on Lich King.

The achievement requires you to stack Necrotic Plague to 30 before defeating the Lich King.
We stacked it to around 36, hitting exactly 30 on the way, before pushing him into the transition phase to phase 2. Upon killing him we got the Neck-Deep in Vile achievement but not the other one. After having a very very long talk with a GM, this is what the response was:

"This achievement is indeed bugged so it is not always rewarded even though you get the criteria done for it. However since our logs does not provide information towards this we cannot confirm that you actually are eligible for this achievement and can therefore not help you."

Are you freaking kidding me?
Blizzard has all this technology and you're telling me they cannot track whether or not Necrotic Plague stacked to 30?
The GM I was talking to was very polite and expressed concern towards this, but in the very end, he basically gave me the finger and said, sorry, can't help you. Both me and my guild leader was extremely aggravated and disappointed by this kind of attitude. He then told us to not bother until it's fixed and focus on other achievements. He dismissed me in a very annoying manner and I feel it's insulting considering the achievement has been here since 3.3.3 and is still bugged out, even though tons of people has it, yet this GM claimed their records does not hold information around debuffs on a player or mob.

What are your thoughts and have this happened to you?

So you were aggravated by the kind of attitude that there was nothing he could do? I work mostly in customer service, and I hate people like you. When someone keeps insisting that you do something for them that you CANNOT DO, a simple dismissal is all you can do, because there are other people with problems they can fix to be helped. GMs have limits to what they can do, they can't just hit a button and go "here, this is exactly what you wanted!" because it doesn't work that way. Don't get all pissy at the GM because he could't meet your perfect little demand.