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    I think Ron Paul needs a hug

    http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/...n-paul/243683/

    It seems CNN and Fox don't like him

    also Jon Stewart even forgot him once on his show lol, but remembered him long enough to bring this up.





    I guess the media does not like him because he sounds.... logical?

    I will hug him if I ever see him. Poor guy.



    We the people have not ignored him however.



    I think if he wins the primary it would not be a vote for the lesser of 2 evils.
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    Logic has no place in Politics! Stop with all this crazy talk of things that make sense.

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    i loved the part where the crowd was happy and the fox news guy was like LAWL who cares what they think

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    I'd hug him, seems pretty cool.

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    I will hug him if I ever see him. Poor guy.
    I think he has a pretty thick skin after dealing with the mainstream media for 30 years.

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    I like Ron Paul. Even though many of his ideas are unpopular, unworkable, and unrealistic, at least he sticks to his guns with some conviction. He's not flopping around on issues and his past actions like a fish out of water like virtually everyone else he has ever ran against.

    Unfortunately, he also just seems to be off his rocker. His hardline isolationist, anti-government, and Christian government ideas used to only win him support among the white-supremacist crowd, but that seems to have gone more mainstream with the Tea Party movement.

    Edit to add: A lot of his policies I like. Ending foreign wars? Yes. Ending war on drugs? Yes. Ending completely unneceaary subsidies? Yes.

    Now...why can't he advocate those and not have to have such awful ideas at the same time, like not believing in a separation of Church and State? Withdrawing from the UN? Eliminating income tax and the IRS? Gutting or eliminating major social programs? That's just the tip of the iceberg.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ptwonline View Post
    Unfortunately, he also just seems to be off his rocker. His hardline isolationist, anti-government, and Christian government ideas used to only win him support among the white-supremacist crowd, but that seems to have gone more mainstream with the Tea Party movement.
    He's not an isolationist, but a non-interventionist. He's claimed many times he wants to keep an open border and keep diplomacy and trade with as many countries as possible. He's against using our troops as the policeman of the world, sticking our noses in business that doesn't concern us.

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    Guy starts winning polls and debates, and suddenly the media acts like he doesn't even exist and doesn't report on anything that has to do with Ron Paul. Even trying to spread the idea that "awww, it's so sad that he just can't win" when he's THE frontrunner.

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    If not Obama, Ron Paul seems as the smart choice...

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    FYI, if it's some one that your corporate whore polical public relations media is against, I'd consider looking into what he has to say.
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    When John Stewart likes a Republican candidate, and FoX ignores him, pigs sprout wings and people in Hell shiver. Very curious indeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ptwonline View Post
    Unfortunately, he also just seems to be off his rocker. His hardline isolationist, anti-government, and Christian government ideas used to only win him support among the white-supremacist crowd, but that seems to have gone more mainstream with the Tea Party movement.
    Serious misinterpretation of his positions. He's a non-interventionist, like Switzerland is today. Switzerland is extremely international and has a strong national defence but they don't go around attacking everyone. Has worked pretty well. Japan was an isolationist before WWII.

    He's not anti-government, he's anti-big government.

    He especially does not want religion to be incorporated into Government.

    Also nice classy touch with some unfounded racist stuff right there, wtf. Many of his political inspirations were Jewish.
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    i dislike that he is anti abortion, however im not a doctor who delivered 4000 babies

    THAT IS 10 TIMES MORE BABIES THAN POWER THIRST OFFERS!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deathhoof View Post
    He's not an isolationist, but a non-interventionist. He's claimed many times he wants to keep an open border and keep diplomacy and trade with as many countries as possible. He's against using our troops as the policeman of the world, sticking our noses in business that doesn't concern us.
    Well...I would call Ron Paul at least half-isolationist. He's pretty keen on restricting the border to immigration and citizenship. He wants out of the UN. Those are isolationist ideas, not non-interventionalist. Paul also seems to be a free-trade supporter only in theory, since AFAIK he has opposed every single free trade deal. His voting record is protectionist, and to cover for this he argues against "managed trade" (only he uses that term AFAIK) while voting to close down free trade agreements. Instead of voting for agreements that provide freer trade, he presents idealistic and naive definitions of "free trade" and then votes protectionist every time.

    He and his supporters can call him non-interventionalist. That is part of what he is. But he has also been isolationist whether they want to admit it or not.

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    since AFAIK he has opposed every single free trade deal.
    He's against NAFTA, but he's not against real free trade. Which means you simply remove tariffs instead of having complicated deals with exceptions etc.

    Also, Jon Stewart is absolutely hilarious xD

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    Ron Paul is so much a true conservative, meaning he follows what the Republican originally stood for before it became all about Jesus (pre-Reagan), that some of his views may seem to be very Liberal.

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    People shy away from Ron Paul because his son Rand Paul is an idiot and makes my home state of KY look like they are even stupider for electing him. That being said, I hope Ron Paul wins the election due to the fact that he seems to have the most logical arguments out of all candidates. He won't win though because he doesn't have the monewy that the big 2 parties have to run a good campaign. Whoever has the bigger pocketbook wins the elections, not the people who make the most sense and to me that is a major flaw with the our country sadly
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diurdi View Post
    Serious misinterpretation of his positions. He's a non-interventionist, like Switzerland is today. Switzerland is extremely international and has a strong national defence but they don't go around attacking everyone. Has worked pretty well. Japan was an isolationist before WWII.

    He's not anti-government, he's anti-big government.

    He especially does not want religion to be incorporated into Government.

    Also nice classy touch with some unfounded racist stuff right there, wtf. Many of his political inspirations were Jewish.
    Perhaps you've never seen how strong his support is among white supremacists. Time after time he is the candidate they endorse becuase his policies match what they want. No, I'm not saying that Ron Paul is a racist, and in no way do I believe that he is one. I'm saying that his ideas used to only appeal to a certain demographic that most of us wouldn't be caught dead with. His ideas haven't really changed, and yet now he is more mainstream? What does THAT tell you?

    Have you actually bothered to read or listen to what Paul actually has to say about religion and government? There are so many examples out there. I just picked one article from an theist who naturally would be concerned about religion and government.

    http://atheism.about.com/b/2007/08/0...secularism.htm

    Anyway, Ron Paul has no chance of getting elected as President. However, his presence in the debates and his ideas--both good and bad--will have an influence. I just wish we could take the good ones and leave out the bad ones.

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