Heroism being a DPS loss...

[Torne]

fail logic from the OP...
you deal your burst (exactly the same burst as without BL) in a sorter time, meaning you start conservation phase sooner, meaning your next burst phase will come sooner.
you do exactly the same thing, only 30% faster, how can that result in a dps loss?

[Varyk]

I get what the OP is saying, but the term "dps" is being used incorrectly.

He's saying that he can't get full advantage out of how some of his abilities work, which could lower his potential damage output, since there won't be time to abuse the mana regen or what have you.

It's not a dps loss, it is a resource loss, which is what the OP should have actually said.

Let's say if you had a set sequence of abilities to use. 1,2,3,4,5. Lets say 4 and 5 are your big finishers. With bloodlust, maybe u can only use 1-4 and not being able to fully build to 5 hurt his potential damage. This is in no way a dps loss tho.

[Shangalar]

fail logic from the OP...
you deal your burst (exactly the same burst as without BL) in a sorter time, meaning you start conservation phase sooner, meaning your next burst phase will come sooner.
you do exactly the same thing, only 30% faster, how can that result in a dps loss?

So when you say fail logic from the OP, I hope you took into account the insane logic behind your words that your new burst phase will come sooner considering the burst phases are always exactly 2 minutes apart... my points on page 2 sums up the point of arcane burst with heroism.

[Jessylia]

Yes considering threat isn't an issue and we have mirrors and invis, your point is valid you "poor fool kiddo cunt"

While he was a complete jerk the way he said it (and unnecessarily so), his point is completely accurate. There's no way that heroism actually reduces your overall damage. Even if your burn phase ends sooner and you go into your conserve phase, you've still cast the same number of spells and done the same amount of damage from your burn phase (ignoring RNG of course). The only way haste can "lower" your damage output is because other dps classes do more damage (with the added haste) and the boss is dying faster, meaning less time for you to do damage.

[Deleted]

Doh. Everyone seems to forget that the conservetive phase still gives you aloooot more dps in heroism mode. Since you will manage your mana well and cast more ABs. Yes, heroism is a huge dps gain.

[nemex]

Alright. The point has been made many, many times. Going to close this so the unnecessary bashing of the OP stops.