rough numbers
form 1 frieza, 500k
form 2 frieza, 1,000,000
form 3 Frieza, ????
form 4 Frieza, 12,000,000
Full Power: 120,000,000
Cooler form 4 and full power (assumed) 100,000,000 (close, but weaker than Frieza) From 5 Cooler around 400,000,000
Form 2 cold is equal to or greater than 120,000,000
times that by 12 like with frieza between his form 2 and 4. 1,440,000,000 now times that for 100% power up 144,000,000,000
now times that by 4 for coolers form to compare
576,000,000,000 is his power if like the saiyans, frieza's race is consistent
BEAST!.
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Most writers do not give Cold too much credit. DBZ multiverse puts his 4th form at around Semi Imperfect cells level.
Seems about right.
the real debate
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they had around the same power according to everyone on earth when checking out Frieza and his Dads power level.
They are not consistent, I think Bringer of Death and Multiverse have a better idea that he is around the various Cell form levels.
DRAGONBALL Z KAI IS GOING TO AIR ON TOONAMI @_@
they won. ever since toonami'z comeback that vocal minority is like "iz nat saime" "needz dbz er mah gerd nat toonami no dbz" "dbz or nerthan"
and with vortexx and nicktoons rights expiring and the buu saga getting dubbed and possibly a new series being created toonami was like "fuck it just give them the damn dbz"
i wish they'd make a dragonball kai. i always liked dragon ball more than dbz. oh well guess ill finally get to see all of dbz
"I was a normal baby for 30 seconds, then ninjas stole my mamma" - Deadpool
"so what do we do?" "well jack, you stand there and say 'gee rocket raccoon I'm so glad you brought that Unfeasibly large cannon with you..' and i go like this BRAKKA BRAKKA BRAKKA" - Rocket Raccoon
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"There is no teacher but the enemy. No one but the enemy will tell you what the enemy is going to do. No one but the enemy will ever teach you how to destroy and conquer. Only the enemy shows you where you are weak. Only the enemy tells you where he is strong. And the rules of the game are what you can do to him and what you can stop him from doing to you." -Mazer Rackham - Ender's Game Orson Scott Card
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pSmhZFbCy0&feature=kp
thats the second one. check out first
Near the end they mention that Cooler 2 is coming soon.
its the saiyan saga through to the buu saga. so it kind of is O-O
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everything ive found says its gonna be shown in fall 2014. and didnt toriyama talk alot about how he liked doing dbz again after battle of gods? something about how it was easier just doing the story stuff while other people worried about the designs and stuff or something.
i was under the assumption that after battle of gods he wanted to do more dbz stuff and hes been putting a bunch of dbz stuff in his spin off manga
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he did say this
"What is the meaning of that conclusion…?
I suppose there might be a variety of impressions with regards to the battle’s conclusion…. As far as I’m concerned, I’ll be happy if I can get people to feel “an expansion into [something] afterwards”. Like, “Isn’t there still more to come?” (laughs)"
which implies he wants to do more
"I was a normal baby for 30 seconds, then ninjas stole my mamma" - Deadpool
"so what do we do?" "well jack, you stand there and say 'gee rocket raccoon I'm so glad you brought that Unfeasibly large cannon with you..' and i go like this BRAKKA BRAKKA BRAKKA" - Rocket Raccoon
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Well, he could just be being a dick (playing devil's advocate here). I know I'd get a laugh or two if I was a big author and led fans on with something like that. I'm sure I'd eventually do something at some point, but maybe he's just tired of it and left himself a way to do more if he ever felt like it again.
Then again, he could just be an asshole. So you never know.
"There is no teacher but the enemy. No one but the enemy will tell you what the enemy is going to do. No one but the enemy will ever teach you how to destroy and conquer. Only the enemy shows you where you are weak. Only the enemy tells you where he is strong. And the rules of the game are what you can do to him and what you can stop him from doing to you." -Mazer Rackham - Ender's Game Orson Scott Card
"I was a normal baby for 30 seconds, then ninjas stole my mamma" - Deadpool
"so what do we do?" "well jack, you stand there and say 'gee rocket raccoon I'm so glad you brought that Unfeasibly large cannon with you..' and i go like this BRAKKA BRAKKA BRAKKA" - Rocket Raccoon
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"There is no teacher but the enemy. No one but the enemy will tell you what the enemy is going to do. No one but the enemy will ever teach you how to destroy and conquer. Only the enemy shows you where you are weak. Only the enemy tells you where he is strong. And the rules of the game are what you can do to him and what you can stop him from doing to you." -Mazer Rackham - Ender's Game Orson Scott Card
"I was a normal baby for 30 seconds, then ninjas stole my mamma" - Deadpool
"so what do we do?" "well jack, you stand there and say 'gee rocket raccoon I'm so glad you brought that Unfeasibly large cannon with you..' and i go like this BRAKKA BRAKKA BRAKKA" - Rocket Raccoon
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And blood. And the yelling.
Also makes Frieza's "5 minutes" seem more realistic though, so it's got that going for it (disclaimer: sarcasm).
Kai doesn't really do much to enhance DBZ as a whole. It cuts out a lot, makes it more "kid-friendly" (no blood, less fighting, etc), and doesn't add much more than updated animation and voice acting.
"I was a normal baby for 30 seconds, then ninjas stole my mamma" - Deadpool
"so what do we do?" "well jack, you stand there and say 'gee rocket raccoon I'm so glad you brought that Unfeasibly large cannon with you..' and i go like this BRAKKA BRAKKA BRAKKA" - Rocket Raccoon
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Theory time. At the end of DBZ, Vegeta's idea was to have Earth's people defend itself, hence the spirit bomb. Later, it becomes even more apparent when Uub becomes a thing, and Earth has a warrior capable of standing up to the big evils of the universe. But, technically, Majuub isn't really "homegrown". Earth needs people like Krillin and Yamcha, except ones who are willing to train like Vegeta. So, what do they do?
Come out from hiding, so to speak. Dende, Kami's lookout, and the universe in general become things that are well-known throughout humanity. But there's still no way humans could outperform the saiyans, even with lifelong training. So how does Earth create its own defenders? The hyperbolic time chamber. Remember it was destroyed by Buu. But I don't think just rebuilding it would fix an alternate dimension. That would take the power of the gods. Or, you know, a dragon. Dende got the dragon to fix the hyperbolic time chamber, and, like recreating the dragon itself, refitted it to allow a person to spend more than two days in there. So, between Dende and Popo training normal humans how do deal with things like energy, and spending years (outside world time) in the chamber, the earth has a handful of humans to stop any evil that comes their way. And this group would be led by...Videl! Why not? Retcon GT and the end of DBZ to make her not a wimp, and get her old voice actor back. She's the only human throughout DBZ to really show capability of progressing in the ways of the Z warriors. Krillin could help too, I guess. I'm still not 100% on what Tien is, but we could add him in there.