Why is a tie worth as much as a loss?

[Deleted]

How come tying in a BG is worth as much honor as losing one? It doesn't make any sense at all

[Duncanîdaho]

I guess Blizz has taken a you play to win stance on Bg's.

[Deleted]

because you haven't won the bg obviously. this isn't a real life sport league mate. its victory or death. and a draw in this case, is a loss, since you didn't make any kind of progress.

[Kaeleena]

A draw should be worth more than a loss especially in a rated matchmaking system because the system is supposed to pit two teams with similar MMS against one another, which artificially increases the odds of a tie at no fault of the players.

[Muraza]

Because both teams need a lower rating, to face worse oppenents so they can actually play at the level they were at and not have a 40 some minute game. Helps you learn your comp better I suppose.

[kewidogg]

A draw should be worth more than a loss especially in a rated matchmaking system because the system is supposed to pit two teams with similar MMS against one another, which artificially increases the odds of a tie at no fault of the players.

However then people would devise some system for tieing at the beginning, like emoting /bow, then both teams could just take a break or something and get free rating

[mikhale]

Because you both lost?

This. If you did not win why do you deserve more points?

[Grizzlerr]

Yeah it makes sense in the game that a Tie = a Loss because you didn't achieve anything. I guess the compensation for you time is the honor from kills and achievement counts.

[Deleted]

You get extra honor for winning, not for not losing.

[Deleted]

Because you both lost?

No, neither of us lost, which is my point. If we're fighting over land or whatever, and neither side loses any of the land they are risking in battle, this is a better outcome than losing said land, wouldn't you agree?

[Deleted]

However then people would devise some system for tieing at the beginning, like emoting /bow, then both teams could just take a break or something and get free rating

This really. People can just easily trade draws to get points/ratings really especially at very high ratings or 5v5s at 4am. Queue then afk.

[Nenavn]

No, neither of us lost, which is my point. If we're fighting over land or whatever, and neither side loses any of the land they are risking in battle, this is a better outcome than losing said land, wouldn't you agree?

You didn't win any land either, so you both gained nothing, therefore there was nothing won. I.E. YOU BOTH LOST

[Dariela]

No, neither of us lost, which is my point. If we're fighting over land or whatever, and neither side loses any of the land they are risking in battle, this is a better outcome than losing said land, wouldn't you agree?

No. You fought a battle. You had deaths. You now have wounded to deal with. You still have an aggressive enemy at your border, it's not safe to rest or rebuild yet.

If you go to war, and don't achieve anything, then you have lost. Simply put, you lost whatever you invested in the battle, and saw no return on that investment.

That is a textbook example of loss.

[Alvito]

If you dont win you should take a points hit. You are playing to win you are not playing to not lose.

Off topic a bit but how much can draws happen in a BG in flag cap matches the team that caps last wins so it would have to be a king of the hill where you both hit 2000 or 1600 on the same tic that cant happen often. Maybe some crazy SotA that you get the relic at the same time they did.

[Deleted]

No. You fought a battle. You had deaths. You now have wounded to deal with. You still have an aggressive enemy at your border, it's not safe to rest or rebuild yet.

If you go to war, and don't achieve anything, then you have lost. Simply put, you lost whatever you invested in the battle, and saw no return on that investment.

That is a textbook example of loss.

But you still havnt "lost" whatever it is you are fighting over, seeing as the other side didn't win. Thus tying is better than losing. I'm not saying It should be considered a win, but it should definately reward at least slightly more than losing.

[mikhale]

This is not the special olympics. You did not win, therefore no extra reward. You are lucky you even get honor for losing beyond hks.

[DiscoGhost]

Because you both lost?

i would say its because neither won.

[Bunsie]

No one won, so essentially you both lost.

[Powell]

Its simple, to prevent teams to break the system and just play draws, for easy ratings

[Deleted]

You get extra honor for winning, not for not losing.

This, you get the bonus honor because you defeated your opponents.