Patch 4.3: Tier 13 Set Bonuses - 9/29

[Mnevis]

prot paladin 4pc is still stupid IMO...

i mean yea its cool we get to run farther from out guard without losing the buff, but rets/holys can run all they want cuz it follows them.

wish they made it the same for prot and gave us a better 4p

It's not GoAK. It's Divine Guardian (aka Raidwall). They're giving all the tank-specs a raid cooldown since some don't have them, and they're making Prot Pallies' cd better, in that you don't have to be grouped to get the advantage from it. Even on a relatively close-quarters fight like phase2 of Rhyolith, it was easy to be out of range of your tank if you were running away from a lazer.

I'm glad they buffed the Elemental 2pc, still kinda boring (in that it doesn't change how I play at all) but at least now it's significant. My napkin math says ~600 DPS from the 2pc, but it'll only get better with more haste. I'll drop 4pc T12 ASAP, as that does nothing for DPS.
Not looking like I'll ever use 4pc, due to the overpowered-ness of T12 2pc. Hopefully Heroic Protector shoulders drop one of these weeks.

New Warlock 4pc is pretty cool, they've needed a better way to keep soulshards up in combat for a while now. Might make ISF tolerable, idk. Destro needs more buffs than that.

Wow. Arcane Power's cd is 90 sec with the talent. The set bouns reduces the cooldown by 70 sec after 10 casts. THe cooldown now is 20 sec. And the duration of Arcane Power is 15 sec.

Yeah, wonder what the idea there is, cause that doesn't seem at all sane.
Also, I wonder, when Dragonwrath casts an Arcane Blast, will it grant a stack of Stolen Power also?

[Gallahadd]

Blizz: Judgement shield you for 30% of the damage done, and Raid wall has it's prenerf CD Pallies: That's stupid, Judgment hits for fuck all, and the Raidwall bonus is an insult, fix this! Blizz: Alright... Judgement shields you for 25% of the damage done, Raid wall is fine. Pallies: /facepalm on the plus side, the Disc bonus 2/4pc is now AWESOME... guess I'll be maining my priest for 4.3..... If it comes out before Swtor

[Purplekitti]

At least the 2 piece Holy Priest bonus moved away from Lightwell, so I'm thankful for that (because personally I don't really make it a priority to use lightwell when you could use the 25% mana reduction tbh, though I do use it) so at least it ties in to another panic button that is DH. With the buff from the rehashed talent, this could prove quite interesting.

I'm hoping it applies at the END of the cast rather than at the beginning (probably won't though) so that we don't lose half of the buff's uptime within the DH channel. That would be dumb.

The 4 pc seems still to be a bit lacklustre for Holy to me, 20% longer sanc and .... +crit on one target for 20% for longer? Meh.

[therealpeni]

Mage bonuses are a little odd, Arcane will cast more ABs than Frost/Fire do their respective fillers but the buff will stack quicker for Arcane And Arcane Power will will be up much quicker. I understand Haste does less for Arcane and that AP won't be giving its full effect every other CD it's used but still seems strange to have a such a disparity between the specs and what the bonus gives them.

idd, so hate it. this will only make arcane be stronger still than both other specs still.
and face it :L arcane is not fun. well, not for me atleast.

[Deleted]

yay they have buffed the balance 4p bonus...5 sec less to starsurge..too bad that it is still better the 4p t12 than 5 sec less on the less used spell in out rotation and the 2 pieces bonus....seriously do you think that 3% damage is a buff ?

Wrath mid hit is ~24k -> the bonus set give 720 more damages
Starfire mid hit is ~32k -> the bonus set give 900 more damages

do you really think we will even notice 700-1k more damage in a boss fight ?


Edit:
oh wait...they have buffed the elemental shaman's set once again.... 10x more mastery and 50 more haste

yet we retain our 700-1k damage....

[Mnevis]

yay they have buffed the balance bonus...5 sec less to starsurge oh wait...they have buffed the elemtnal shaman set once again.... gtfo blizzard....

Pff you say that like you're unaware that even with the buffs Elemental's gotten this summer, Balance is a far better spec, in both utility and damage. We're currently rerolling our hunter for h-Rag cause Moonkin is the most useful spec around for that fight. (see: Paragon bringing 3 to kill 10man).

[Stoobs]

Well, there goes my hopes of Fire being competitive in end game. I guess the last vestige of hope would be that fights have a lot of adds.

[Alphamage]

I just dont like the fact that they are pushing all Mages to keep playing Arcane as the most viable Raiding spec. Not that Fire or Frost are not good, but cmon. Look at that bonus... it clearly says this!

[Mnevis]

2k mastery has to be a mistake but regardless my shaman is back to being my main alt (I love my warlock way to much to not have him my main) but that was a given just with the new lightning bolt animation.

2k mastery during EM (about 15/90seconds for me, with 2600 haste), is worth around 600 DPS, or about 2% damage boost. It's a big number, and a good set bonus if it goes live, but it's not insane (like 2pc T12).

[Nonar]

Oooh, I'm liking the new priest changes. Especially the 100% rapture gain.

[mikezf]

Just curious about the mage bonus for arcane but won't this cause a fairly large mana problem given how often AP can be activated just seems like we will be oom a greater portion of a boss fight than not

[turlockmike]

AB * 10 (15 seconds)
AP
AB * 10 (15 seconds)
(stacks reset)
AB * 6 (12 seconds)
Evocate (8 seconds)
AP
(ABx4AM) (15 seconds)
(stacks reset)
(ABx4 AM) (20 seconds)
Repeat

hrmmmm this could be interesting

[sweetiebelle]

love my disc Priest cant wait too try out these new bonus's omnomnom!

[Adramalech]

Don't forget that it will push glyph of judgment for protadin (10% more damage -> 10% more absorb). And 33% was probably too much for the devs, 28% more in the line with other tank (and being allready CTC capped is enough of a benefit for paladin and warrior, giving them amazing 2p absorb versus average 2p for DK/bear is meh)

I totally forgot such a Glyph existed.

I also didn't factor in the CTC cap. That, and Guarded by the Light too. Guess they couldn't overdo it or we'd be too overpowered from the moment we had that bonus.

[Deleted]

AHAHAHAHHAHA

2P -- Your Arcane Blast has a 100% chance, and your Fireball and Frostbolt spells have a 50% chance to grant Stolen Time, increasing your haste rating by 50 for 30 sec and stacking up to 10 times. When Arcane Power, Combustion, or Icy Veins expires, all stacks of Stolen Time are lost. 4P -- Each stack of Stolen Time also reduces the cooldown of Arcane Power by 7 sec, Combustion by 4 sec, and Icy Veins by 6 sec

Are you kidding me Blizztard ? 100% chance on the only spell an arcane mage cast ? so mages will have 500haste all the time and 20% more damages every 40 sec (120 sec cd - talent = 90 sec)? depending on the cast speed of a mage (what is the cast time of an arcane blast with 500 haste, 1.7 seconds ? 20% * 15 sec = 300 / 40 sec = 7,5% increased damage all the time This is more than two times the balance druid bonus set + 500 haste FIVE HUNDRED

[ComputerNerd]

warlock 4pc change is certainly nicer now, a bit bias for destruction, makes me wonder if that's signs of destruction changes and warlocks rejoicing.

While certainly the mechanic would lend itself to the spec better, as an instant nuke and a far better way of getting the buff up for the 4pc it applies equally to all of them.

[Deleted]

What the hell is wrong with this game system designer ?

seriously 7% more damages to mages but boomkins only get 3%
2000 mastery and 750 haste for shamans (a bit less maybe if they don't get a proc) but boomkins only get 5sec cd reduction, while we loose the UBER important 4piece t12 bonus. Starsurge is hitting a bit more than starfire (if it is a critical hit).

i WANT a tier set that increases my damages as mages and shamans 's tiers
We already lack mobility, we have bugged spells, we have a fuckin stupid mastery system, we have the longest cast time of all casters, and never ending cooldown on starsurge. Yet we get what should be baseline as a 4piece tier set.

[Harith]

like the DPS warrior 4P change rather than making us stronger where we where strong they are spreading it out all along the fight :3

[Deleted]

For me as a holy priest the 2P is kinda nice i guess, but the 4P is totally worthless. I rarely use the shield because of the high mana cost and low absorb amount for holy. Also, i like healing, not casting a shield and waiting.

[thunderdragon2]

i ddint think many would make it live the way they were some were op and some were UP


i was right about ele that was UP

aparently blizz and i clearly dissagree on mages the previous 1 was OP as it was

tbh i dont think the prot pala 2 peice was op