Guild wars 2 vs Swtor Which will you choose?

[vilereaver41]

Changed the title to be less troll baity -Seam

well as the title states i know its impossible to have a thread like this without fanbois but id like people to state what made them choose one of these mmo's
over the other. for instance in gw2 what intrested me the most is

Dynamic events.

Persistent world.

The world changes with your actions.

It has a storyline and voice acting allthough not as much as swtor it still is a stepping stone

the pvp is amazing.

i was never one for marks above npc's heads

Armor and weapons doesent mean your the best as its only based on looks.

probably best combat system iv ever seen.

The art and detail for the game are practicaly amazing as they are hand drawn

the commnity is friendly

the side kick system.

the fairness in you wont get ksed/griefed

in dynamic events you get rewarded for as much effort as you put in

everyone is rewarded for as much effort you put in for dynamic events.

the pvp search system.

the fact arenanet are taking there time in creating a perfect bugless game i respect a company that looks after there player's

that its a perfect mmo to start rping with

that it includes a reward system from gw1 that links to gw2 HOM wise so in a way they didnt abandon gw1

underwater combat system.

dungeon's/endgame

but yeah so far those are all i can think of atm i mean there are more but i must of forgot some il admit i was never a sw fan but i feel
that swtor is just like wow but with new skins and better graphics im sure it appeals to most people who enjoy old mmorpg's style
but considering gw2 is free i dont see how anyone who plays it can lose anything >.> except there life lol

[valden83]

Honestly, in my opinion, you can't straight out compare GW2 to SWTOR. They are far too different from eachother. Traditional fantasy vs. Sci-fi fantasy, free to play vs. subscription based, huge starwars background vs. a newer fantasy story, etc.

Really the best way for you to decide which game to go with is to give them both a try, and if you can't do that, wait a bit to see what the critics and playerbase (IE: your friends) say about the games.

I will say that from my experiences guildwars definitely does look to be quite revolutionary, but it is far from the "traditional" mmo-rpg that I have grown up with, and SWTOR while trying to break from the mold of WoW-ish games, is still pretty traditional in how it plays.

Then again, I was a huge fan of Starwars Galaxies before it went in the crapper. I love Starwars too.

I will definitely check out GW2 as well though, since it does not have a subscription.

EDIT: Also, would like to add that Bioware developing SWTOR is a big factor for me as well, the storytelling aspect of questing is lightyears ahead of any questing before now, both story line and dialogue.

[Necrox]

I can't agree with valden more.

I have pre-ordered SWTOR, but I will be checking out GW2 as well, and am likely to buy it too when it gets closer to a release.
They are very different games, with both their own merits and feel. I don't see why I should bar myself from experiencing one or the other
When I've played them a while I'm likely to then find that I prefer spending my time with one more than the other, and then continue to do that.
(or with a third game, there are many fine ones coming out)

[Ulfhedinn]

I really just don't like the sound of how SWTOR is supposed to work. It doesn't sound fun to me at all. Funny thing is that I was ignoring GW2 because I thought it would be to much like GW1 and I was very wrong.

[Stormgnoef]

Just play both gw2 is free after you buy it.

[Umbra]

Just play both gw2 is free after you buy it.

The huge investment when it comes to MMOs isn't money; it's time. If you want to delve into an MMO, you're going to have to devote hours upon hours of gameplay into it.

[vilereaver41]

The huge investment when it comes to MMOs isn't money; it's time. If you want to delve into an MMO, you're going to have to devote hours upon hours of gameplay into it.

i couldnt agree more i mean its not as simple as yeah why not play both its finding the time to play both i mean people who will have that time are either millionairs billionairs or people with no life's and might i just say none of us are getting any richer which is another reason i choose gw2

[vizzle]

Some of your points are subjective so it really doesn't have a place in a GW2 vs. SWTOR thread.

"Dynamic events" - Events that change depending on your morality/choices

"Persistent world" - Same thing all MMORPGs have

"The world changes with your actions" - Sure, if you enjoy heavy phasing. Again, SWTOR has the morality system when NPCs will interact differently towards you.

"It has a storyline and voice acting allthough not as much as swtor it still is a stepping stone" - Story in SWTOR and VA as well (more)

"the pvp is amazing." - Subjective, anyone can say PvP is amazing in SWTOR too

"i was never one for marks above npc's heads" - Okay?

"Armor and weapons doesent mean your the best as its only based on looks" - That's what happens when you have a game that doesn't have progression raiding, there won't be any gear progression either.

"probably best combat system iv ever seen" - Subjective again

"The art and detail for the game are practicaly amazing as they are hand drawn" - Everything starts from a hand drawing... including SWTOR and GW2.

"the commnity is friendly" - Because you're already playing on a high pop GW2 server right?

"the side kick system" - Companion system

"the fairness in you wont get ksed/griefed" - You wouldn't get griefed in SWTOR either, even if you were on a PvP realm. A person who dies can choose to res at a "safe center".

"in dynamic events you get rewarded for as much effort as you put in" - Cool.

"everyone is rewarded for as much effort you put in for dynamic events." - Is this not the same point as the one above?

"the pvp search system." - Because WoW and SWTOR don't have this, right?

"the fact arenanet are taking there time in creating a perfect bugless game i respect a company that looks after there player's" - Because SWTOR hasn't been pushed back several times as well, right?

"that its a perfect mmo to start rping with" - Subjective, some people would say SWTOR is the best RP game (especially SW lovers)

"that it includes a reward system from gw1 that links to gw2 HOM wise so in a way they didnt abandon gw1" - I don't see how this can be a point against SWTOR, lol.

"underwater combat system" - I don't know why people are so obsessed with swimming.

"dungeon's/endgame" - Hardly, it won't be anything like progression raiding.

[vilereaver41]

Some of your points are subjective so it really doesn't have a place in a GW2 vs. SWTOR thread.

"Dynamic events" - Events that change depending on your morality/choices

"Persistent world" - Same thing all MMORPGs have

"The world changes with your actions" - Sure, if you enjoy heavy phasing. Again, SWTOR has the morality system when NPCs will interact differently towards you.

"It has a storyline and voice acting allthough not as much as swtor it still is a stepping stone" - Story in SWTOR and VA as well (more)

"the pvp is amazing." - Subjective, anyone can say PvP is amazing in SWTOR too

"i was never one for marks above npc's heads" - Okay?

"Armor and weapons doesent mean your the best as its only based on looks" - That's what happens when you have a game that doesn't have progression raiding, there won't be any gear progression either.

"probably best combat system iv ever seen" - Subjective again

"The art and detail for the game are practicaly amazing as they are hand drawn" - Everything starts from a hand drawing... including SWTOR and GW2.

"the commnity is friendly" - Because you're already playing on a high pop GW2 server right?

"the side kick system" - Companion system

"the fairness in you wont get ksed/griefed" - You wouldn't get griefed in SWTOR either, even if you were on a PvP realm. A person who dies can choose to res at a "safe center".

"in dynamic events you get rewarded for as much effort as you put in" - Cool.

"everyone is rewarded for as much effort you put in for dynamic events." - Is this not the same point as the one above?

"the pvp search system." - Because WoW and SWTOR don't have this, right?

"the fact arenanet are taking there time in creating a perfect bugless game i respect a company that looks after there player's" - Because SWTOR hasn't been pushed back several times as well, right?

"that its a perfect mmo to start rping with" - Subjective, some people would say SWTOR is the best RP game (especially SW lovers)

"that it includes a reward system from gw1 that links to gw2 HOM wise so in a way they didnt abandon gw1" - I don't see how this can be a point against SWTOR, lol.

"underwater combat system" - I don't know why people are so obsessed with swimming.

"dungeon's/endgame" - Hardly, it won't be anything like progression raiding.

1-they change do to player population of the event

2-considering gw1 wasnt a proper mmo this is a big thing for all its fans all 6mil of them

2-yes i do enjoy heavy phasing im sure alot of people do aswell something wrong with that?

3-probably the only 2 things swtor has for it

4-the pvp in swtor is Terrible i mean really... can you find a game with better pvp then gw2?

5- i ment that in gw2 npcs with quest have voic acting instead of the exclamation mark that i hate so much

6-there is nothing wrong with not having progression raiding there are also dungeons and pve content that can
replace progression raiding also swtor's endgame content i hear is so bad they might not even have it

-7-can you find any better? and note how i said "iv ever seen" and not "youv ever seen"

8-are you comparing the art and detailing from swtor to gw2? because gw2 is at a high advantage

9-i ment website based iv played aoc/warhammer online/aion/wow./ and all there community's were horrible
iv also kept an eye on the tor community and il tell you there no golden egg

10- no i mean sidekick system check the gw2 wiki for it type in sidekick

11-an example is -john goes to kill a mob but bob takes the first hit but thats ok john can fight it to and both john and bob will get rewards and exp for as much effort theyv done in killing the mob- and also for the griefing part -john goes to mine something but fred takes it first thats ok john can mine it after fred because its usable by all players nearby-

12-the search system in gw2 is majorly diffrent its more of something you would find in an fps

13- if swtor was pushed back it means it was rushed wasnt it? gw2 was never pushed back because arenanet have never stated a date as they want it as near to completion as possible

14-i highly doubt the rp feeling in swtor is better then gw2

15-i dont see swtor rewarding players for there efforts from previous sw mmorpg's

16-50% of gw2 content is underwater

17-your right it will be much better progression raiding is oldschool world of warcraft style so im glad you dont think it will be like that as gw2 isnt supposed to be like wow

[seam]

Keep the flaming down and be civil. Just a forewarning.

[Toccs]

See I’m the other way around, GW2 doesn’t interest me at all i think it’s because I’m a bit sick of the whole knights and wizards setting and it looks very Asian to me. Then again I’ve been a Star Wars fan all my life so my decision is extremely bias. I hope both games do well in all honestly.

[Calgus-CC]

A lot of the points you mention have already been seen in a mmorpg.... ie... Rift

You're saying that GW2 takes the best of all the mmo's in the genre and combines it.... I'll wait and see on that one

At the end of the day, it all comes down to personal preference. I'll play both and probably delve deeper into SWToR just because I like the lore. Even then, I'll probably still spend most of my time in WoW due to the atmosphere of higher end progression raiding. Its taken WoW years of development to create encounters that are both balanced and challenging to players of all skill levels.

[Deleted]

swotr sucks, gw2 is ok, both will fail to kill wow, personally i'll try gw2, i liked the first and i want to see this new episode, swotr...no comment.

[vizzle]

6-there is nothing wrong with not having progression raiding there are also dungeons and pve content that can
replace progression raiding also swtor's endgame content i hear is so bad they might not even have it

There's no point replying to you, this line makes it obvious you're just baiting and trying to antagonize people, lol.

[Kuja]

Poll would be nice. I will choose them both, but Guild Wars 2 looks better though.

[Deleted]

I agree with some of the points, Guild Wars 2 has some brilliant features.

That being said I also disagree with some of the points you made, for me the fact everybody will have the same stats no matter what is really lame and worries me about end game pve, Its a good move for pvp as I think that side of the game should be based on skill and not who has the best items, there wont be any pve progression though it will almost be pointless running dungeons.

Meh actually looking at it again you have made alot of stupid points,friendly community, persistent world, marks on npc's heads? hmmm ye ok, wow has had a persistent world for over 6 years nothing new there, I don't know how you can claim the community if friendly at this stage, wait until the game is released and that will soon change and the marks on npc's is just and odd thing to say, it feels like you made 2-3 good points then thought ''shit what else is cool in this game''

Im not hating on the game I will be buying it, the art style and dynamic events look awesome and ill probably play more of the pvp side to the game, just a few things worry me that's all, I cant see hardcore pve'ers finding this game fun, no gear upgrades and a max group limit of 5 isnt going to satisfy them imo.

[jac_Arcanis]

There's no point replying to you, this line makes it obvious you're just baiting and trying to antagonize people, lol.

Sounds like you won't hear a single bad word said against your SWTOR. Like most of the points you have put forward in regard to the OP, it's subjective.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvrQDqDgf4U

[asharia]

guild wars

why?
because i can play it once a month and it wont cost me $15

[Deleted]

There's no point replying to you, this line makes it obvious you're just baiting and trying to antagonize people, lol.

Your whole first post was made to antagonize the GW2 players...

[vizzle]

Sounds like you won't hear a single bad word said against your SWTOR. Like most of the points you have put forward in regard to the OP, it's subjective.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvrQDqDgf4U

Are you not reading the things he's saying?

The OP is claiming that he "heard" that SWTOR won't even have endgame because it's so bad. Please, tell me where this has ever been said, because it hasn't. At that point it just becomes obvious that he's just making shit up. There are many other points in there that aren't even real points.

I'm not a giant SWTOR fanboy, I don't like several aspects of the game, and I'll try GW2 as well. But I'm not going to sit back while some people just talk trash about SWTOR that isn't even true.