Thief and Engineers will dominate population?

[Wrathonia]

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Dungeon

8 dungeons in total, with 4 modes for each dungeon. Seeing as you will be side-kicked down to dungeons of lower levels they will remain useful even at 80. So essentially we will have about 32 dungeons at launch. Put into their that even in the dungeons there can be dynamic events and every run will feel a bit different.

I want to emphasize this because I know it is hard to understand, especially after having played WoW for so long. End game isn't gear grind. At least not for stats. For looks yes, but all 80 gear of a particular quality will be the same value and will be capped at that for everyone. So once you get your functional gear, then you go for appearance and get all your skills unlocked. Then it is about maxing crafting if you so wish and mastering your character.

[Malthurius]

I am in awe! that is fantastic really!no more ninja loot, no more RNG in progression of character..just one question though...I heard dungeons in cap level will be three..if you can get every piece of gear from every boss then why to go and do it again?I know for fun or help guildies friends but is there any other profit from complete dungeons in end content?

For the other part I am obviously wrong about thiefs and engineers and maybe as someone said they post more on forums :P

With that said, gear really isn't very important in guild wars 2. You hit the level cap, get the best stat gear pretty quickly, then it becomes an issue of skill. It isn't like WoW where you can out gear content, it's a genuine challenge because of difficulty, not gear.

Any gear that you want beyond that would be for cosmetics.

[Xcreed]

I just got pawned now

nevermind...I still think from what I ve read on others forums that thiefs/engineers will dominate but maybe 90% was too much..

This is just a matter of seeing what you're focused on. Things like this happen in real life as well. If you're wife gets pregnant for example you start noticing every single pregnant woman. It doesn't mean that there are suddenly more pregnant woman on earth.

[sacrypheyes]

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Dungeon

8 dungeons in total, with 4 modes for each dungeon. Seeing as you will be side-kicked down to dungeons of lower levels they will remain useful even at 80. So essentially we will have about 32 dungeons at launch. Put into their that even in the dungeons there can be dynamic events and every run will feel a bit different.

I want to emphasize this because I know it is hard to understand, especially after having played WoW for so long. End game isn't gear grind. At least not for stats. For looks yes, but all 80 gear of a particular quality will be the same value and will be capped at that for everyone. So once you get your functional gear, then you go for appearance and get all your skills unlocked. Then it is about maxing crafting if you so wish and mastering your character.

there won't be 4 modes per dungeon, barely story and exploration modes, the latter including 3 possible paths to clear the said dungeon. quite far from 32 dungeons if you ask me.

back to the topic, i'll probably main an Elementalist as it seems to me that it may require some time to be comfortable with all 4 attunements and weapons combinations, enough to know what i'll prefer running with.

[Blznsmri]

there won't be 4 modes per dungeon, barely story and exploration modes, the latter including 3 possible paths to clear the said dungeon. quite far from 32 dungeons if you ask me.

1 story mode. 1 explorable mode with 3 different paths including 3 different sets of bosses, enemies and events. That's 4 different ways to do the dungeon, and by extension, 32 different dungeons.

[Exerionx]

Necromancer FTW

I'm having a thief/guardian alt, though!

[Saverem]

Overpopulation of a certain class won't really matter in this game because it doesn't rely on the balance of the holy trinity. If half of the population play Thief, so what? It'll just mean you'll see more of them running around. You can probably run a dungeon with all Thieves or all Engineers.

P.S. Yes, I'm going Thief and rolling Engi as my main alt. Elementalist also looking good.

[Merendel]

Statistics don't lie. And with a sample of 2000, the error is negligibly small. Maybe thieves and engineers just post more posts.

Sure they do. Statistics can be twisted to say whatever the analyst wants them to say. Oh the raw data may be truthful if it was gathered honestly but its still easy to lie with statistics when you draw conclusions from them. Particularly on the internet. I read a quote that sums it up nicely.
"90% of all statistics presented as arguments on the internet are made up on the spot, this one included"

Polls are fine and all but they still only represent the population that is polled. A sample size of 2000 is quite small when you are talking about potentially millions of potential players worldwide and only represents the population that actually visits a particular forum in this case. If the population of that forum is skewed one way or another from the norm it can still be quite inaccurate. If class A dominated class B in PVP if you posted should class A be nerfed on both forums No would be a clear majority on the class A poll while the class B poll would clearly say yes they should be nerfed. While I doubt theres any significant bias between classes here or on guru and the poll is probably representative of the population you should never assume they are accurate.

[Glytch]

Statistics don't lie.

there's only 3 things in life
lies
damn lies
statistics

^_^

[Blufossa]

Overpopulation of a certain class won't really matter in this game because it doesn't rely on the balance of the holy trinity. If half of the population play Thief, so what? It'll just mean you'll see more of them running around. You can probably run a dungeon with all Thieves or all Engineers.

P.S. Yes, I'm going Thief and rolling Engi as my main alt. Elementalist also looking good.

This is true. I don't mind seeing so many Guardians, Warriors, and Elementalists around, I'll be generous with my Elixir Gun of Happy.

[Stormcall]

I just got pawned now

nevermind...I still think from what I ve read on others forums that thiefs/engineers will dominate but maybe 90% was too much..

Umm, what forums are you looking at, and how many people are voting? Cause GWGuru is like, one of THE biggest forums for GW fans, and...MMO Champ is one of the others.

So, based on the 2500 people who voted in the polls on those 2 forums, it sure doesn't look like those 2 classes are gonna dominate, and without proof, I find it hard to believe these other forums have a significantly larger portion of voters backing your claims...

[Lannden]

I'm going to be playing Guardian or Warrior haven't decided which yet, Leaning more towards Guardian.

[Kaneth]

Overpopulation of a certain class won't really matter in this game because it doesn't rely on the balance of the holy trinity. If half of the population play Thief, so what? It'll just mean you'll see more of them running around. You can probably run a dungeon with all Thieves or all Engineers.

P.S. Yes, I'm going Thief and rolling Engi as my main alt. Elementalist also looking good.

ANet stated in the past that they test dungeons with all same class runs as well as mixed groups, to ensure that the content can be tackled by 5 of whatever.

On topic: I'm not 100% sure. I was originally leaning towards Thief or Engy, but now I am torn between Warrior and Necro, with a Guardian alt.

[Deleted]

Sure they do. Statistics can be twisted to say whatever the analyst wants them to say. Oh the raw data may be truthful if it was gathered honestly but its still easy to lie with statistics when you draw conclusions from them. Particularly on the internet. I read a quote that sums it up nicely.
"90% of all statistics presented as arguments on the internet are made up on the spot, this one included"

Polls are fine and all but they still only represent the population that is polled. A sample size of 2000 is quite small when you are talking about potentially millions of potential players worldwide and only represents the population that actually visits a particular forum in this case. If the population of that forum is skewed one way or another from the norm it can still be quite inaccurate. If class A dominated class B in PVP if you posted should class A be nerfed on both forums No would be a clear majority on the class A poll while the class B poll would clearly say yes they should be nerfed. While I doubt theres any significant bias between classes here or on guru and the poll is probably representative of the population you should never assume they are accurate.

I know all about statistics, I just didn't wanted to crit everyone with a wall of text.

While I doubt theres any significant bias between classes here or on guru and the poll is probably representative of the population

This. The poll on here and the poll on guru are pretty much random. And thus, I found it enough to just post a oneliner.

[Deleted]

I'm going to play a Guardian, thats for sure lol. I always loved "Protection" classes.

And I couldn't say any better than this:

No, they won't.

http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...-will-you-play

http://www.guildwars2guru.com/forum/...ni-t16894.html

[papajohn4]

This is just a matter of seeing what you're focused on. Things like this happen in real life as well. If you're wife gets pregnant for example you start noticing every single pregnant woman. It doesn't mean that there are suddenly more pregnant woman on earth.

very very true m8...

for the gear part I didn't know how it was and yes I play wow for a loong time :P but I really care more about look from stats. For example I didn't changed my weapon in paladin "soul blade" with a better one that I also had in my bags crafted because the skin was awful..so yes better looking gear will bring a lot of motivation to me :P better than stats!Also didn't crossed my mind that there will be dynamic events into dungeons and every dungeon may end up different than previous!

[Blackout15]

From many of the forums ive been through it sounded to me like ele would be the most popular, with thief and engi as close seconds. But i also see alot of people going guardians. Dont see many necros/rangers posting but from multiple diferent surveys ive seen the community seems to be spread quite well among all the classes and races. Hopefully this wont change.

I honestly can not name my main yet, i KNOW ill be making a thief first.....but i also want a war....and an ele.....and a ranger....and a guardian....oh damn....

[Eorayn]

I will make Elementalist as main and Guardian and Thief as secondaries.

[AlamarAtMMOC]

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The whole "I only run this for the rewards I get" is a EQ/WoW Mindset that shouldn't apply to why you do them in GW2. The only thing you'll get out of finnishing Exploration mode dungons will be vanity differences. So, gear that is on the same power level but has different looks. And, there might be more than one piece per boss that you're intrested in, we don't know that.

I don't know about limiting it to EQ/WoW Mindset's, but personally, I like to experience all the content once... maybe twice... Once I know I can surpass the challenges, I'm fine to move on... Sadly, content is never made that fast ; )

-Alamar

[Viscerous]

Thief will be very popular, but engineer will probably be the least played.