Not a single significant change for Shamans in the latest official PTR Patch Notes?

[Aleksej89]

In my opinion the latest official (not data-mined) PTR Patch Notes are quite good, giving very few bad changes while a lot of good stuff has been implemented.
Even though nothing on PTR is final and anything can be changed, added or erased, i believe we can start discussing this FIRST large list of changes.

Blizzard changed, balanced or altered something from just about every aspect of the game:
- Dungeons got polished.
- Raid encounters got changed.
- Dungeon finder system got a tad improved.
- Certain Battlegrounds got improved.
- A lot of UI changes and fixed were done.
- Quests for leveling got changed a bit.
- Some Daily Quests got further fixing.
- Certain Addon stuff is changed.
- Many items got changed.
- Few profession changes were implemented.
- Some achievements got changed.
- Important Gem changes, especially Meta gems.
- Many Racial spells got changed.
- A lot of changes for all 9 classes!
- Some fixes for RealID and Chat systems were implemented.
- Massive bug fixes, Blizz did not even bother to list them separately.
- Slight Hunter pet fixes that were long overdue.
- A lot of Glyph changes.

As we can all see, the work invested in this patch is quite enormous.
Especially can be seen the work invested in altering the 9 classes - but what about the 10th class?

What about Shamans, the 10th (and last) class?
- Not a single bug fix worth mentioning? (god knows we have more bugs than an ant-hill has ants).
- Not a single change to the few "relatively hard to find use for" spells still in Shaman's arsenal? (many shaman are tempted to call these spells pure cr*p, but lets be civil )
- Not a single buff to the PvP crippled Elem and Enha? (compared to Mages, Ferals, Warrs and DKs, no one is dumb enough to bring a Shaman DPS to PvP).
- Not a single fix for Enhas terrible scaling problems? (ninja-ing spell caster daggers/maces as Enha sure is fun!).
- Not a single change to Searing Totem, the dumbest mechanic in WoW? (we all love when ST is ignoring all FS and SS debuffs, doing whatever it pleases).
- Not a single new icon for StormStrike, or any other Shaman spell? (seems giving new icons is Blizz's best attempt to fix Shamans xD ).

I find it hard to believe that Blizzard had the people and the resources to change, alter and polish just about EVERY segment of WoW there is - EXCEPT Shamans!
I think that Blizzard is either:

1. Not bothering at all with Shamans, leaving them for some later weeks/months/year quarters. After all, Shamans are used to this kind of treatment for the past 5 years.

OR

2. Preparing such a huge amount of awesome epic changes for Shamans, that Blizz did not want to spoil the massive surprise for all the (nearly extinct) Shaman fans.

There will definitely be more changes to this PTR over the course of the following weeks/months - both long lists and small hotfixes, i am sure of it.
However, no matter how you turn it, the fact is Blizzard now made HUNDREDS of improvements to nearly every part of WoW - not a SINGLE notable one for Shamans!

After seeing first-hand how Blizz treats Shamans over the past 5+ years, i am more inclined to believe the "Blizzard will not do anything significant about Shamans" explanation.

[Bags]

Shaman are fine. http://us.battle.net/wow/en/pvp/arena/cyclone/3v3

In my Bg... look at all the sham. Almost 1 per team in the top 50.

[Aleksej89]

Shaman are fine. http://us.battle.net/wow/en/pvp/arena/cyclone/3v3

In my Bg... look at all the sham. Almost 1 per team in the top 50.

And after the Bloodlust in Arena removal?
And how many of them are Elemental or Enhancement? Resto in PvP is currently out of balance, like most healers.

[Shamygandof]

Earthquake is one of the worst 31 point talents in the game imo. Honestly if I wasnt forced to take it to get into another tree, I wouldn't even spend the single point on it.

[Aleksej89]

Earthquake is one of the worst 31 point talents in the game imo. Honestly if I wasnt forced to take it to get into another tree, I wouldn't even spend the single point on it.

You are not forced to take EQ. You just must spend 31 points.
Try taking some other talent instead of EQ, you can then put points in other trees.

[Imadraenei]

We've had patch notes for less than a week. Calm the **** down. The Enhancement problem of MHing caster weapons, ignoring Windfury, and possibly even hard-casting Lava Burst is likely not an easy fix since it seems to stem from the central idea of our Mastery.

The only gamebreaking bug I've encountered is the goofy AI on Searing Totem, which is easily fixed by just recasting the totem. If you're going to complain about something, at least be specific. What are these numerous bugs?

[Hypernetic]

Where are you getting this list of changes from?

[Kazuun]

Earthquake is one of the worst 31 point talents in the game imo. Honestly if I wasnt forced to take it to get into another tree, I wouldn't even spend the single point on it.

I have spent all my talent points and still didn't buy the EQ. There are few spots you can squeeze 31th point

[Kob]

Earthquake is one of the worst 31 point talents in the game imo. Honestly if I wasnt forced to take it to get into another tree, I wouldn't even spend the single point on it.

You arent forced to take it, you're forced to spend 31 points in total in your main tree before going into another.

[Maeleena]

Shamans are not broke, so no need to fix it. I love my shaman. Resto and Enh are totally badass in every respect.

[Deleted]

So much QQ, I don't get why you people are so butthurt about shamans, compared to WOTLK this is heaven.

[LyskaWF]

Enhancement is pretty fine. They said they're going to nerf purge which makes me sad, but at the same time I understand it. The removal of hero is not a shaman nerf, as it affects everyone. If you're going to make the argument that people won't want to play with you because you bring one less buff, then think about mages and hunters. Mages might be the slight exception due to their overall power, but that's not the point. Resto is good. Enhancement is good. Elemental needs some love in the form of a real 31pt talent, and Stoneclaw needs to be a SPELL that SCALES. If they fix those two things, shaman PvP will be in a good spot.

[Carighan]

And after the Bloodlust in Arena removal?
And how many of them are Elemental or Enhancement? Resto in PvP is currently out of balance, like most healers.

And if I restrict <class>'s "viability" for being counted enough, I can always show they're not represented enough. Say DKs don't count if they're Blood, Frost or Unholy. Wow there's little of the remaining ones in there! :O

(It does not at all matter whether the Shamans represented are there as Resto - I doubt they truly aim for all 3 specs being PvP viable, the main focus will be on getting all 10 classes PvP viable.)

[Alhoon]

Resto and Enh are totally badass in every respect.

Resto is good.

Can mods ban these blatant reverse trolls and delete their posts?

[tbm13]

Personally I have found nothing about my enh shaman bad, at all. I avoid caster weps because its just not my play style. But I think this should be locked before someone important sees this and we get the nerfbat like almost all others. I love where were at, and ok ele isnt good in pvp, go enh cuz im owning in arenas. ok resto hard, go figure, dps and stop the QQing. All these problems are easily fixed, but the player refuses to fix it themselves. Be glad we got nothing over a nerf.

[Stollnikas]

There are no fixes, nerfs, buffs because we are fine. We are not OP, we are not terrible. One thing I want them to fix is that my searing totem won't die from aoe or backlash effects like lightning shield, roots and whatnot. Enha were never THE pvp spec, exept for broken beast cleave. Don't expect impossible,they can't make all specs of a certain class viable, eles/enhas never had a representation of lets say warrior in pvp and never will. Other than that we are perfectly fine and why they should change something that works?

[Aviators]

a defensive CD would be nice for elemental/resto. Its incoherent for elemental to have a offensive ability be glyphed into a defensive one.

[Hypernetic]

Can mods ban these blatant reverse trolls and delete their posts?

This is no different from Wrath TBH. The top 10 heals mean next to nothing in the grand scheme of things. The fact is that Resto is not broken and is completely capable of healing an encounter.

Are Paladins and Priests healing for more? Yes. Does that mean resto isn't good? Hell NO. Resto is great, I love it more than ever.

[LyskaWF]

Can mods ban these blatant reverse trolls and delete their posts?

Yes, I would very much like to see you banned. Read the goddamn post you mouth breathing moron. Most of what's being discussed here is PvP based and you go and link fucking WoL? GTFO seriously. FURTHERMORE if you can seriously read my post where I talk about PURGE, RING OF FROST, STONECLAW, REMOVAL OF HERO FROM ARENA and think I'm talking about PvE you need to go back to fucking grade school and learn some reading comprehension.

Sorry for my language mods - you know I sometimes troll, but one thing that irritates me is retards like this saying I'm trolling when I'm not.

[Aleksej89]

Great post Illiti

To all the people saying "shaman are fine", please go check the world of logs website......

And to the special few saying "It does not matter which spec is viable in PvP" - it most certainly does matter which spec is viable.
I have not played Resto Shaman for over 2 years, simply cause i hate having Healing as my job.
You MIGHT be able to say that for Pure DPS classes, but for Hybrids at least 2 specs must be viable in PvP (tanking specs not included).