10man Ultrax Heroic - Soaking

[Nakayaa]

Hello there

I've been looking at quite alot of threads the last days, trying to figure out who can soak in our 10man raid. I know that the tanks can soak, and so can our mage and rogue. But we still need 6 people to do so =/

Our raid setup is:
Paladin Tank & DK Tank - These 2 can soak
Holy/Discipline Priest & Resto Druid - Priest: Guardian Spirit if Holy | Barrier + PS if Disci
Fire Mage, Demo Lock, Elemental Shaman x2 (One of the shamans can go Enha if needed) - Mage can soak, not sure about the others
Sub Rogue & Fury Warrior - Rogue can soak, what about the warrior?

Im thankfull for all the help I can get

[Kael]

2 tanks, rogue and fire, and 2X factor. Barrier/DG will work as long as people are fully topped off and pre-shielded, DG+ painsupp/HoSac will work for the other. Enhance will help if you're really pushing the edge, but not by much. Warlock is a strong choice for staying out compared to the others for the 15% to pet transfer. If you're right on the edge, enhance and warrior for the same soak spot (warrior on 1, enhance on 4, warrior on 7, for example) with Shamanistic Rage and Shield Wall (DPS loss) to make sure they don't fall over.

I'd highly recommend running tanks 1/4/7, X factors 2/5 and rogue/mage 3/6 if you're getting 7. Else, X factors 1/4, rogue mage 2/5, and tanks 3/6 to get the least damage possible later in the fight.

[Resentful]

The warrior can soak with Shield wall+Another CD I believe, We've had ours soak before when it was progression.

[Deleted]

Resto druid can survive with Barskin + frenzied regeneration easily.

[Seriss]

A friend of mine who plays a warlock had to soak once... He did something like demon form and soulburn healthstone or something like that. It's a huge dps loss, unfortunately.

Oh and... shamans can soak with Reincarnation *coughs and quickly runs away*

[Prag]

Enhancement has Shamanistic Rage @ 30% DR
Elemental has http://www.wowhead.com/spell=55452
Both Shaman can glyph Stoneclaw Totem for an addition 12k or something.

Warlock can really only do the Shadow Ward (11k) + Soulburn: Healthstone + Voidwalker Sacrifice. This would gimp their damage severely, I've tried it.

[Deleted]

The way my raid team is doing it is we put the tanks in different teams. I.E. Tank1+Rogue, Mage+X, Tank2+Y

And for the X and Y I'm not sure who you'd want soaking, but getting the shaman that can to go enhancement might be a good idea for 1 spot, and then have the warrior on the other one. HoSac should be up for every hour (I believe it gets reduced cd from the tank buff) and then using Divine guardian, PW:B and such would really make it trivial.
What you need to watch out for is that when the tanks pop out for Hour, they really need to pop out at the last possible second preferable even just .5 before it blows so that the DPS don't accidentally get melee'd and then die because of the hour. (yes, we had this happen)

[Tradu]

Shaman can soak with Glyphed Stoneclaw and/or Elemental Mastery. Locks can soak as Destro(Nether Ward and possibly an external CD), not sure about the other specs.
And as somebody said, the shammies can "soak" with Reincarnation as well. We had our shammy do that if people DCd/soaked the wrong Hour.

[Kael]

http://www.wowhead.com/spell=19028/soul-link

Hence the warlock. Nether ward is also applicable. Enhance and warlock would probably* be your best bet.

[Quiv]

Enhancement shaman can soak with shamanistic rage + glyphed stoneclaw totem + small external cd for example tank 4 piece bonus from a warrior. Might even be possible to skip the external cd.

[Deleted]

If your warlock is comfortable going destro he could soak one getting the Nether protection activated through Nether Ward just before Ultraxion starts to Hour of Twilight. Though Soul Link and Nether Ward alone might not fully do the trick so if you can spare a PS, RC, Sacrifice or Raid Wall on him (just one of them) he will be more than fine.

The fury warrior should be able to survive HoT as well by giving him a combination of external cooldowns (RC + PS or something similar possibly pre-shielding him aswell) and then he can use his shield wall and another external cooldown for the next (pre-shielding him again)

[Deja Thoris]

When our enhancement shammy soaked at a stage I threw hand of sacrifice on her. It soaked an extra 30k damage. It's a bit fiddly when tanking tho.

[Druchii]

Warrior can soak one per fight, with a 5min Shield Wall CD.
I've done it before

[Dorfie]

Literally anyone can soak if you think outside the box. We did the achievement tonight on heroic, so all 10 people in the raid had to soak once.

[asharia]

Fury warrior can soak very easily. I do it every week.

Use only shield wall for one, and then RC + Sac from the pally for the other.

just need a 6th, and your options as i see it, are:
one shaman going enh and using sham rage + outside CDs
one shaman staying ele, glyphing for EM and SCT + outside CDs (fair dps loss as they have to save EM for the cast and barely get to use it)
lock going destro and using nether protection + outside CDs
druid with barkskin + outside CDs. and i'd probably make sure he gets a fresh bubble too.

your outside CDs are pally sacs and PS + Barrier.
warrior will need something for the time he doesnt shield wall. i always get sac and i'm paired with our prot pally to make it easier for him to sac me. but priest CDs would work too.

[Atreies]

As a holy pally I put sacrifice on our warlock + aura mastery and he lives no problem with his own person cd's. You don't have AM so another cooldown instead should work. Just make sure your tank isn't putting sacrifice on someone when he is also soaking that round. Won't work well.

[Mohammed]

I'd recommend using your immunities for numbers 1/4/7. As damage ramps up, this is healing you can save for others. In your case, rogue/mage. Cloak every hour for rogue, cauterize first 2 hours, ice block the third for mage.

[Jinto]

The lock doesn't need any externals to survive with Nether Ward...though if you could spare any by all means use it.

Id soak with: the tanks, rogue, mage, lock, warrior with warrior getting a PS on the 2nd soak. Preferably you want to make sure those that typically take the most damage (aka lock, warr) do their 2nd soak as early as possible as later on they may not be topped off going into an HoT.

[Sinnermighty]

Warrior can soak one per fight, with a 5min Shield Wall CD.
I've done it before

Shield Wall isn't a 5 minute CD, it would be up for every set you have to soak on Heroic. (Every 3rd for example: 1st/4th/7th)

[Scubascythe]

Shield Wall isn't a 5 minute CD, it would be up for every set you have to soak on Heroic. (Every 3rd for example: 1st/4th/7th)

For arms and fury it is. Default CD is 5min, prot specs into Shield Mastery to reduce it down to 2min.