9 russian hikers mutiliated

[superstarz]

ok this story might be abit old but i wanna know what you all think about this.

well basically 9 russian hikers(they were university students btw)
were out in the woods in russian winter it was snowing.

there bodies were found scattered around their campsite.
something made them all run in different directions all in the pjs n undies(no warm clothes in freezing cold)
when authorities found them some were mutilated missing their tongue, organs etc
some of them looked 50 years older like they had white hair.
some of them were dead but didnt have any wounds or cuts or obvious signs of trauma but when checking their body
they found out they had severe internal injuries like being hit by a truck. they showed no external injuries though.
Forensic radiation tests had shown high doses of radioactive contamination on the clothes of a few victims
heres a short link to the story and i posted a video link at the bottom
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyatlov_Pass_incident

im just asking what you guys think it is?
some people say aliens
some people say might be military testing there.
dont post here unless you have an open mind dont just debunk every theory without any proof.
im not saying its aliens or military testing im just giving you examples of what people said
i dont know what happened can only speculate but i want your opinions to help me find the truth




here is a link about the story
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rudq1bC2cQI

[Dch48]

Obviously a Bigfoot encounter gone wrong.

Seriously though, from reading the account, it could be that they discovered an unexploded warhead under where the tent was pitched and attempted to escape before it went off. The ones with the massive injuries were too close when it did explode, the others died of exposure and possibly radiation issues later on. The only missing body part appears to be the woman's tongue which may have been used for food by the longest surviving members of the party.

[Soisoisoi]

"UFO Attacks & Kills 9 Hikers In Russia"

Unidentified Flying Object killed them? I assume they mean Aliens of some sort? UFO could be a Chinese lantern, as long as it's not identified.


Either way, give them to Brennan from Bones, she and the team will find out!

[Deleted]

they found out they had severe internal injuries like being hit by a truck. they showed no external injuries though.

First thing that comes to mind there is a bear; they have the ability to crush bones with a single swipe. Radioactivity is slightly odd however.

[Deleted]

The almost naked thing can be easily explained, it's common in hypothermia cases for people to strip naked or almost naked during the final staged (too far gone and body gives up regulating temperature so the body gets very hot). The missing body parts can be explained by passing animals taking a nibble.

The other things will probably have an explanation but jumping instantly to aliens or the big bad "Man" is taking a few liberties in my opinion. Ask yourself one question, what would these people (aliens, "the man") have to gain by mutilating/murdering/irradiating people?

[Simulacrum]

Probably not aliens or the military; more like a mythology built up around an event that easily inspires it, like most of these.

My position in detail:
http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4108

[superstarz]

The almost naked thing can be easily explained, it's common in hypothermia cases for people to strip naked or almost naked during the final staged (too far gone and body gives up regulating temperature so the body gets very hot). The missing body parts can be explained by passing animals taking a nibble.

The other things will probably have an explanation but jumping instantly to aliens or the big bad "Man" is taking a few liberties in my opinion. Ask yourself one question, what would these people (aliens, "the man") have to gain by mutilating/murdering/irradiating people?

i never said i beleived it was aliens i said that was one theory.
im just giving you other peoples theories as i do not disregard them if i dont believe them. im not ignorant like some people
i dont know what they have to gain by mutiliating murdering? are you serious
look at humans when we want to study an animal what do we do?
thats right.. we open them up.
so it doesnt sound farfetched that if aliens did want to learn about humans they might open us up and study us

[Activi-T]

Some form of mass psychosis which lead them to wander off in the snow, self mutilate or mutilate each other depending on the persons injuries or death by exposure for the ones that had no visible injuries. They weren't discovered for 22 days, plenty of time to accumulate radiation if the area was naturally high anyway like some rocks are, I don't know the geological make up of the region and research on an iPad is irksome.

[Simulacrum]

im just giving theories as i do not disregard them if i dont believe them. im not ignorant like some people

If someone doesn't know what they're talking about then they're ignorant by definition. There's nothing wrong about being ignorant, despite the word's connotations.

Anyway, just accepting claims without demanding evidence is naive. Not accepting things without evidence is being skeptical, which is what people should be of extraordinarily implausible claims for which there is no solid evidence. The latter is a far more beneficial trait than the former, except maybe in dogs or soldiers.

[Adam Jensen]

That was on Cracked.

Hypothermia. Hypothermia makes one ironically feel hot so they take their clothes off.

Tongues: tongues are fleshy, first target for other organisms to devour.

[Simulacrum]

Some form of mass psychosis which lead them to wander off in the snow, self mutilate or mutilate each other depending on the persons injuries or death by exposure for the ones that had no visible injuries. They weren't discovered for 22 days, plenty of time to accumulate radiation if the area was naturally high anyway like some rocks are, I don't know the geological make up of the region and research on an iPad is irksome.

That's a pretty extraordinary claim, too, bu at least it's more plausible than aliens. If I had to speculate I'd say it was more like something scared them in the middle of the night, maybe a wild animal, or a loud noise that made them think an avalanche was coming, and made them run out into the darkness in a panic totally unprepared. Then they got lost, died, and had their more delicious bodyparts eaten by opportunistic animals.

The radiation isn't as obvious, but it could be that they were using, say, lanterns containing thorium, which they'd get on their bodies and clothes if they broke them.

Or it could be one of a million other explanations. We'll never know since it was over 50 years ago.

[Puri]

Sorry, but some russian report from the 60s is not really a credible source.
Where were the clothes examined? Perhaps they were radioactively contaminated on the flight back, because the transportation vehicle was used to transfer radioactive material before?
And perhaps their bodies were so subcooled that there wouldn't be any haematomas visible on the outside, and they were simply killed by those local Mansi or some nutcase, who also could veil their traces.

[Deleted]

Secret drug test made by the USSR army. It accounts for everything:
-them running out of tent
-internal organ problems
-radioactivity
-madness
-tongue removed to take radiation levels.

[Deleted]

i never said i beleived it was aliens i said that was one theory.
im just giving you other peoples theories as i do not disregard them if i dont believe them. im not ignorant like some people
i dont know what they have to gain by mutiliating murdering? are you serious
look at humans when we want to study an animal what do we do?
thats right.. we open them up.
so it doesnt sound farfetched that if aliens did want to learn about humans they might open us up and study us

When you consider unintelligent life such as animals it makes sense to dissect them as there isn't much else we could do after full observation has been achieved, but it would still be the last resort. When considering intelligent life that has advanced technology then it would make MUCH more sense to try and communicate with them and learn from them. That is the reason I find alien abductions and "probings" very hard to believe. Also if you don't allow people to discuss the theories with a negative view this would be a short thread of one person saying "I agree"

[Low Hanging Fruit]

In America they would have been packing, and then kids would be dragging aliens and bigfoots out of the woods instead of police picking up pieces of kids in the woods. Gun's prevent bigfoot attacks.

[guderian]

Sounds like a M Night Shamalalalalaman movie. It must be the trees.

[Deleted]

ok this story might be abit old but i wanna know what you all think about this.

well basically 9 russian hikers(they were university students btw)
were out in the woods in russian winter it was snowing.

there bodies were found scattered around their campsite.
something made them all run in different directions all in the pjs n undies(no warm clothes in freezing cold)
when authorities found them some were mutilated missing their tongue, organs etc
some of them looked 50 years older like they had white hair.
some of them were dead but didnt have any wounds or cuts or obvious signs of trauma but when checking their body
they found out they had severe internal injuries like being hit by a truck. they showed no external injuries though.
Forensic radiation tests had shown high doses of radioactive contamination on the clothes of a few victims
heres a short link to the story and i posted a video link at the bottom
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyatlov_Pass_incident

im just asking what you guys think it is?
some people say aliens
some people say might be military testing there.
dont post here unless you have an open mind dont just debunk every theory without any proof.
im not saying its aliens or military testing im just giving you examples of what people said
i dont know what happened can only speculate but i want your opinions to help me find the truth




here is a link about the story
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rudq1bC2cQI

Obviously an Anomaly spawned on them and they didn't get out of there (STALKER!).

Well, something happened I suppose... What kind of conclussions do you expect people to make here? It's not like we're gonna solve this case.

Still, interesting to read about. Makes me wonder.

---------- Post added 2012-08-18 at 01:08 AM ----------

Secret drug test made by the USSR army. It accounts for everything:
-them running out of tent
-internal organ problems
-radioactivity
-madness
-tongue removed to take radiation levels.

That does seem quite possible. It would account for how they could keep going with severe injuries. Like some sort of acid/cocain trip. Heck! Maybe they were doing some drugs they brought with themselves from a shady dealer? And then thought that it would be a great idea to go out naked into the snow?
They didn't specify HOW the tounge had been removed, which was interesting. Perhaps that person had by accident or intentionally removed it?

I like the drugtest thesis. It feels plausible.

[Garnier Fructis]

Obviously a Bigfoot encounter gone wrong.

Seriously though, from reading the account, it could be that they discovered an unexploded warhead under where the tent was pitched and attempted to escape before it went off. The ones with the massive injuries were too close when it did explode, the others died of exposure and possibly radiation issues later on. The only missing body part appears to be the woman's tongue which may have been used for food by the longest surviving members of the party.

The immediate flaw in this line of reasoning is that an explosion would have left behind evidence of such an event.

First thing that comes to mind there is a bear; they have the ability to crush bones with a single swipe. Radioactivity is slightly odd however.

But that would cause soft tissue damage, wouldn't it? The official account states that there was no soft tissue damage, and it seemed as if the internal organs were damaged by some kind of pressure.

[Deleted]

i never said i beleived it was aliens i said that was one theory.
im just giving you other peoples theories as i do not disregard them if i dont believe them. im not ignorant like some people
i dont know what they have to gain by mutiliating murdering? are you serious
look at humans when we want to study an animal what do we do?
thats right.. we open them up.
so it doesnt sound farfetched that if aliens did want to learn about humans they might open us up and study us

None of these people where "opened up". One of them lost a tounge, which could be easily explained by far less strange things than aliens.
I think aliens would be a bit more discreet about it. I wouldn't travel across the galaxy to make people run naked in snow, unless I was a douchebag alien.

Come on, to even go to aliens as an explanation rather than anything more logical is ridiculous. And you do a really poor job at supporting your thesis.

[v2prwsmb45yhuq3wj23vpjk]

The immediate flaw in this line of reasoning is that an explosion would have left behind evidence of such an event.



But that would cause soft tissue damage, wouldn't it? The official account states that there was no soft tissue damage, and it seemed as if the internal organs were damaged by some kind of pressure.

"Released documents contained no information about the condition of the skiers’ internal organs."