Glyph of Blinding Light opinions?

[Tangra]

Can we get some info on this glyph from people who have tested it? Knockdowns are a bit of an odd mechanic, so how does ours work with this glyph? Is it a stun, but not on the stun DR? If the opponent trinkets it, do they still have to wait for the getting up animation before they can do anything? Is the debuff magical? It seems like it has a lot of potential, but I haven't heard much about it.

[Jaitee]

knockdowns cant be trinketed out of and they cant be dispelled cant remember how the interact with divine shield and iceblock though
if you plan to use it to CC stuff you wont be hitting for 6 seconds leave it unglyphed if you want to be able to hit stuff while its CCd by it then glyph it
for pvp i imagine itll be more based upon your group set up which you pick and also your job i.e holy would probably prefer unglyphed and ret glyphed

for pve having it glyphed in 5 mans would be very powerful since you can use it on mobs that are being AoEd to buy a few seconds for the tank or interupt everythings casts

[Tangra]

Yeah, as I though it sounds like an exciting glyph. For starters, it lets Ret stun someone for 9 sec. I can also see some nasty combos such as combining it with Bladestorm and especially Smokebomb. Catching a large group of enemies with it, at a BG flag for example, will also probably lead to some hilarious QQ fests.

[silvertitan]

It's a powerful glyph that i think most will use outside of raid bosses

[ipoststuff]

wouldnt it DR with HoJ?

[Tangra]

I think knockdowns don't count as stuns.

[Wow]

wouldnt it DR with HoJ?

It does, However if you don't glyph it and get rep you can cc someone for 20secs. As they are all on on different dr's.

[ipoststuff]

Glyph is kinda useless imo.

3sec CC on gcd 2min cooldown?? No..

Altough it reminds me of my very first epic weapon. Earthshaker http://www.wowhead.com/item=17073 fun times.

[MerinPally]

It's going to be awesome for running 5mans and challenge modes. Not so much in raids

[Pasture]

Glyph is kinda useless imo.

3sec CC on gcd 2min cooldown?? No..

The way I see it you'll probably break the disorient within 10 seconds anyway.

For the disorient to be useful it has to be used as a pure CC, ala repentance. You need to not touch the target at all. The knockdown version may have a shorter duration but in any dungeon, raid etc your target is going to get whacked by someone straight away, so it's a three second pressure reliever rather than a CC.

In short, it depends what you're using the spell for. I'll always be glyphing for the knockdown.

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Catching a large group of enemies with it, at a BG flag for example, will also probably lead to some hilarious QQ fests.

I don't see why. There are plenty of AoE stuns and disorients out there.

[Tangra]

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I don't see why. There are plenty of AoE stuns and disorients out there.

Because you can't trinket out of knockdowns, dispel them, or break them with damage. Also, who knows if they are on a DR for that matter, making me wonder how multiple pallies would be able to chain glyphed BL. A 3 sec CC on a large group, that they can't get out of in any way other than maybe iceblock/bubble, would be pretty devastating.

[ipoststuff]

I can see the use for 5mans but thats about it.

A 3 sec CC on a large group, that they can't get out of in any way other than maybe iceblock/bubble, would be pretty devastating.

how's a 3 sec cc devastating? Unless its very curical people dont trinket 3 sec CCs. And the DR with HoJ would make it useless.

6 sec HoJ then 1.5 sec BL. The stun would last as long as BL's GCD.

[Tangra]

I can see the use for 5mans but thats about it.
how's a 3 sec cc devastating? Unless its very curical people dont trinket 3 sec CCs. And the DR with HoJ would make it useless.

6 sec HoJ then 1.5 sec BL. The stun would last as long as BL's GCD.

I'm still not sure that it does DR HoJ.

---------- Post added 2012-09-09 at 10:16 PM ----------

It does, However if you don't glyph it and get rep you can cc someone for 20secs. As they are all on on different dr's.

Yeah that is nice, and it's actually more than 20 sec. Assuming no trinket, If you open with Repent, then HoJ, then BL, repent will be back before BL is over, it will be on the DR still, so you can use it right away and still CC the target for 24 sec.

However, if you're lucky enough to be a blood elf or tauren, you can silence/stomp after the blind and by that time Repent DR will be finished, allowing a full Repent, so a blood elf/tauren should be able to shut down a healer for 30 sec. Any other paladin about 24, or you can have a teammate throw out a short cc after your blind and use a full repent after that.

Diminishing returns end 15 sec after the target has been under the effect of that cc currently, I'm assuming that hasn't changed in MoP? Of course this CC chain does require pretty close range, so it will be a bit tricky to pull off, and casting repent is a big dps loss, so really it will be your partners mostly burning someone why you do this much of the time.

[silverhatred]

I can see this being glyphed by default in pve barring specific mechanics. The utility of such a spell will really depend on who uses it in which way. I would compare it to arcane torrent for melee.

[Deleted]

But melee can have Arcane Torrent aswell :P

[silverhatred]

But melee can have Arcane Torrent aswell :P

I more meant it to mean that we would use it on melee the same way we use arcane torrent on casters.