IF 5.2 is a Zandalari Raid..

[Editos]

I'd like a new troll raid ^^

[Arbs]

Nah I think were going until 5.5, 5.2 will be prbly be 1 big raid like Ulduar & ICC with Zandalar/Mogu/Sarok & the Thunder King as the last boss.

5.3 will be another story patch than 5.4 will be the introduction to Siege of Orgrimmar plus 3 dungeons linked to it just like Dargon Soil & ICC than 5.5 will the patch thats leading into the next Expansion just like 3.5.5 led us into Cataclysm with Halion.

[Alvito]

The small amount of troll influence in MV is more then enough troll raiding for me. I am tired of always fighting trolls, I know they have an impact on every part of Azeroth, it has still gotten old. Having them revamp ZA/ZG didn't help either.

[Shampro]

The Raid Team's name is Ion? Does that mean that there's multiple Raid Teams who develop the raids?

No Ion (dont remember his last name) Is the Raid team Lead Dev

[Mawnix]

No Ion (dont remember his last name) Is the Raid team Lead Dev

Oh! Alright that makes sense.

Yeah. The way they're hiping makes it sound like "Hey, we're doing another Ulduar esque raid, except this time we're not going to release ANOTHER raid while it's still content and mess up progression."

[Sills]

If 5.2 is a Zandalari raid I will be a bit disappointed. Im sure they will tie in some mogu stuff (like the mogu-Zandalari alliance) but I was really looking forward to getting to see more about the mogu and the Thunder King himself.

then I think we would have a patch 5.3 that would advance the story more regarding the Alliance/Horde and Garrosh's fall/corruption. Then we get into the Seige in 5.4.

[ati87]

The main reason I say 5.3 may be the Siege of Orgrimmar is due to the fact on live, currently, for the 4 part Wrathion Questline, there is an achievement for each, and it ends at 5.3.

Also a lot of the people I've spoken to think 5.3 is Siege.

Which makes me wonder how the hell with this work out.

It is easy to change that achievement or add some new parts to it.

And the great thing about the current direction of the Lore is that Blizzard can just add small things to the game and just finish it of with a big climax.

The direction I see Blizzard going is the following

MoP is the start where the expedition force of both sides come and check out the new continent
5.1 is the patch where the main force of both sides start to make their advance (see the clip with the fleet)
The third part the horde and alliance should go all, it should start with the Alliance being in a disadvantage but at the very end start gaining the advantage
Fourth part would be the Horde losing the fight and at the same time the moment where the other member's of the horde begin planning (at the very least) the disposal of Garrosh
Fifth and final part should become the Siege of Orgimmar

If Blizzard wants they can do a patch similar to 5.1 or just add it to a content patch.

[Mawnix]

If 5.2 is a Zandalari raid I will be a bit disappointed. Im sure they will tie in some mogu stuff (like the mogu-Zandalari alliance) but I was really looking forward to getting to see more about the mogu and the Thunder King himself.

then I think we would have a patch 5.3 that would advance the story more regarding the Alliance/Horde and Garrosh's fall/corruption. Then we get into the Seige in 5.4.

Wrathion hints highly next patch we're taking down the Thunder King, but Blizz has also hinted we're doing a Zandalari raid.

If that's the case I'd imagine the raid is a Mogu/Troll Raid.

[Vesker]

I'm guessing 5.2 will be something to do with the Thunder King. He's in the company of the Zandalari though so they'll likely be a big part of whatever happens. I don't like the Mogu. Not one bit. They're yet another boring 'we're so awesome, let's go teach the lesser races what's up' evil race and there's nothing interesting about them whatsoever. They're basically Naga with legs. There's no way the Thunder King is going to be anything even remotely special. He'll put some big plan in motion that will crumble against our wall of pissed off adventurers like they all do and then we'll kick his door down and swing him around by the ankles until he apologizes.

The Mogu are not something I'm even a little enthusiastic about. The Zandalari, however, are. We just learned their aggressive expansion is because of their own home being destroyed by the cataclysm. Desperation is a hell of a motivation after all. I'd like to see a little more of them.

[Netherspark]

It is quite likely that 5.3 will be another 'minor' patch with no new raids but with new quest hubs/dungeons/scenarios etc.

But I would be quite suprised if there wasn't another major raid patch aside from the Zandalari and Orgrimmar siege: The Mogu are not done yet; Shan-Bu and the Thunder King are still around somewhere and I can't see them being squeezed into a troll raid. Maybe there will be two raids in 5.2, one troll and one mogu?

[Mawnix]

I'm guessing 5.2 will be something to do with the Thunder King. He's in the company of the Zandalari though so they'll likely be a big part of whatever happens. I don't like the Mogu. Not one bit. They're yet another boring 'we're so awesome, let's go teach the lesser races what's up' evil race and there's nothing interesting about them whatsoever. They're basically Naga with legs. There's no way the Thunder King is going to be anything even remotely special. He'll put some big plan in motion that will crumble against our wall of pissed off adventurers like they all do and then we'll kick his door down and swing him around by the ankles until he apologizes.

The Mogu are not something I'm even a little enthusiastic about. The Zandalari, however, are. We just learned their aggressive expansion is because of their own home being destroyed by the cataclysm. Desperation is a hell of a motivation after all. I'd like to see a little more of them.

Yeesh..that's pessimistic..

I personally love the Mogu. I dunno why you're saying they're teaching a Lesser Race..the Trolls and Mogu have been allies for thousands of years. They're on equal footing 0_o.

[K-b]

A zalandari raid, which would end the the mogu and troll threat in panda land.

What happens after could be a series of scenario's, showing escalations from that point of view instead of visualized in one raid.

Thrall:"OMG, hax warcheif takes my spot, LFG Gary Hellscream"

Varian:"OMG, I hatez dat guy too, lets form raid, I tanks"

Thrall:"AWESOME SAUCE, sec asking rogue friend" /whisper vol'jin "Dude! Feel like raiding?"

- Vol'jin : "Lol, damage sucks but kk"


Varian:"Sec, will contact my son, see if he can healz" /whisper Anduin "Sup. Spot for healer, want to come?"

- Andiun: "kk, but not coming if noob group"

Thrall:"Varian, plx ask Jaina, we need ccer and hero. She no like me very much"

Varian:"Kk, get flasks"


...

Just sayin.

[Deleted]

5.3 will not be the final raid patch.

[Austilias]

I'm guessing 5.2 will be something to do with the Thunder King. He's in the company of the Zandalari though so they'll likely be a big part of whatever happens. I don't like the Mogu. Not one bit. They're yet another boring 'we're so awesome, let's go teach the lesser races what's up' evil race and there's nothing interesting about them whatsoever. They're basically Naga with legs. There's no way the Thunder King is going to be anything even remotely special. He'll put some big plan in motion that will crumble against our wall of pissed off adventurers like they all do and then we'll kick his door down and swing him around by the ankles until he apologizes.

The Mogu are not something I'm even a little enthusiastic about. The Zandalari, however, are. We just learned their aggressive expansion is because of their own home being destroyed by the cataclysm. Desperation is a hell of a motivation after all. I'd like to see a little more of them.

Blizzard story-telling is not good at the best of times, i'm afraid. Condolences.

[Sakurako]

"Contact Wrathion once your faction assault the island of the Thunder King. [To Be Continued in Patch 5.2...]

Are you aware of recent events in Kun-Lai summit? The Zandalari have landed on the northern shores in great numbers and have set about renewing old alliances. To that end, they have resurrected The Thunder King.

Even among the Mogu, the name of the first emperor commands awe and fear. The Thunder King founded a vast empire of slavery and suffering... but also of power, riches, and splendor.

We will take the fight to him soon. Find me when your faction makes its move."

http://ptr.wowhead.com/quest=32457

[Mawnix]

Blizzard story-telling is not good at the best of times, i'm afraid. Condolences.

I love Mist's story 0_o Much more coherent than Cata and on par with Wrath.

[MatadorMedia]

I'm actually glad that 5.1 doesn't include raid content. This allows my casual guild time to progress through the raids at a leisurely pace (and maybe finish them!). Also, it's better to skip the raid this patch rather than include some worthless raid (ToC says hello). It's a smart move and I support it.

I would welcome some Zandalari involvement but that shouldn't be the entire raid. I guess mixed with Sha it could be interesting but I'm over the troll encounters.

[Falrinn]

If 5.2 is a Zandalari raid I will be a bit disappointed. Im sure they will tie in some mogu stuff (like the mogu-Zandalari alliance) but I was really looking forward to getting to see more about the mogu and the Thunder King himself.

then I think we would have a patch 5.3 that would advance the story more regarding the Alliance/Horde and Garrosh's fall/corruption. Then we get into the Seige in 5.4.

Most indications point to 5.2 being first and foremost about the Thunder King. Overall, I'd be very surprised if the Zandalari themselves consume more then half of the content in 5.2. Thunder Isle (the apparent name for the inaccessible island north of the Townlong Steppes), is after all part of Pandaria and would likely have a much stronger Mogu influence then it would Zandalari.

My guess is the raid will have both Zandalari and Mogu bosses, plus a few constructs, beasts, and summoned entities both races brought (supposedly the raid will have something like 12 bosses). The final boss will probably be the Thunder King, although I wouldn't rule out a double boss encounter where he is joined by the Zandalari leader as well.

As for 5.3 and 5.4, I think you have the right basic idea. Although I will mention that it's unlikely Garrosh will be corrupted in any real sense. The Horde rebellion is already starting, Vol'jin has already abandoned any pretense of working for Garrosh, Thrall has likewise abandoned even tacit support of Garrosh, and Lor'themar's dialogue indicates that he'd join the rebellion in a heartbeat if an opportunity presented itself. More then likely 5.3 will be about the other Horde leaders abandoning Garrosh and pledging their support to the rebellion. By the end I'd imagine even Gallywix would abandon Garrosh if he thinks he's backing the losing side.

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I'm actually glad that 5.1 doesn't include raid content. This allows my casual guild time to progress through the raids at a leisurely pace (and maybe finish them!). Also, it's better to skip the raid this patch rather than include some worthless raid (ToC says hello). It's a smart move and I support it.

I would welcome some Zandalari involvement but that shouldn't be the entire raid. I guess mixed with Sha it could be interesting but I'm over the troll encounters.

As I mentioned above, 5.2 will probably be about the Thunder King first and foremost, with his relationship with the Zandalari being a significant component.

[Deleted]

I think we'll be getting 7 patches. If they continue the pattern of lore patch, raid patch we need 6 patches to give us the traditional 3 raid tiers. Then we get a build up patch for the next xpac. Hopefully the transition between xpacs will be a lot smoother this time around, giving us about a year and 4 months for MOP.

As for 5.2 specifically I'm definitely thinking an Ulduar style raid with 2 wings, one were you take on the Thunder King, the other were you kill Zul.

[McNeil]

Are we talking about that Zandalari raid on that huge island north of Townlong? I'd badly want to go there