I would rather they pick anyone over 'Thrall part 2'. Thrall had his time, he had his story, and he left us bored and wanting change. Going back to him would be nothing more than "Status Quo Is God" trope garbage. An easy out.
Thrall in this medium is not an orc. He doesn't behave like an orc. He doesn't think like an orc. Thrall for all intents and purposes is a green skinned human for people who want to go against character and roll Horde when they really identify with alliance. In no previous entries of the Warcraft series have orcs been rational, peaceful, calm beings. They've always been proud, stubborn, aggressive people. Even after their Warcraft 3 'reimagining'.
I always picked Horde in Warcraft because I loved their modus operandi. They fought war for the sport of it and didn't let little niceties like collateral damage get in their way. Trolls were brutal and barbaric, Orcs were proud and followed their warchief without hesitation, and goblins just wanted to watch the world burn.
However, to make the 'ugly' races appeal to the common player, they had to humanize them. Now, taurens are all wise old Native American sages. Orcs are misunderstood, persecuted shaman fighting their past 'sins', trolls are laid back Jamaican stereotypes, and goblins are mischievous shysters. The only race that resembles what it was before are the Forsaken. They're pragmatism to the core and are therefore 'evil' to those who want to play as the 'other' Alliance.
I for one don't want to be accepted. I do not seek approval from races and beings who don't care if I live or die. I don't give a rip about the 'image' I give off to people who would let me and my people starve to death in a desert as long as I stayed out of sight and away from any useful resources.
That's why I liked Garrosh. Not because he's 'evil' or because I think he's 'cool'. But, because he reacts as a true leader would when confronted by a planet full of people who are indifferent to the suffering of the orcs, but are more than ready to kill them should they 'get out of line'. Thrall would hold a peace banquet and beg the Alliance for any scraps they feel generous enough to share. Garrosh holds them by the throat and demands, giving them the choice to acquiesce or perish. Thrall spent years accomplishing nothing but adding a few friends to his circle while he ignored the plight of his people.
If they need to bring in a warchief, make it someone that actually behaves like an orc. Not a green skinned human that some socially awkward goof can identify with while they pretend to be an anti-hero. But an honest to god, proud and defiant orc.
I'd like Gorrosh from Wrath or Cata to lead the Horde. He was the perfect leader for the Horde. Never showed fear or backed down from a fight. Was always the first one into combat. Remember him charging the beaches at twilight highlands? He was a true leader of the horde till blizzard couldn't think of a real antagonist for panda land.
Thrall is the only viable candidate when blizz get rid of Garrosh. (I still to this day wonder why the hell they spoiled the ending of the MoP story before the game was even released) I'll be damned before I see anyone else take the title and I sure as shit wouldn't have Vol'Jin.
Yes. I want pre-Cata Thrall back. But we all know this is never going to happen. The most likely candidates for the new warchief (and there WILL be one), is either Vol'jin or Baine Bloodhoof. Of course Blizzard could pick the fruity blood elf guy, but I doubt that. Prince Gallywix for Warchief! No no. I know! The Huojin faction guy from the Wandering Isle, Ji Firepaw: Warchief. Only one choice seems to make sense to maintain a feeling of opposition, although that person may be killed in the tier of raiding after we kill Garrosh.... Sylvanas! Perfect warchief. Cruel, heartless, backstabbingly disobedient. Sylvanas Windrunner it is.
my favorite color's blue, I've never watched high school musical, and your quite gullible pal. But lets not derail this any further then it has done.
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You didn't make much of a point so its hard to comment on it. Still, c'est la vie.
#boycottchina
I LOVE Thrall. His Horde was why I wanted to be a part of it. But, I think what he's doing as Go'el is more important now.
I fking hate Garrosh. I can't wait to kill him. We need a new Warchief. The Horde needs to be amazing again.
A warrior type would be useless for the horde in the future because down road the war will come to a standstill when the burning legion come barrowing down the horde and alliance's ass because the only way to deal with them is to broker a ceasefire between the horde and alliance a but if that warrior has a balance of warrior and wisdow (Thrall or somebody who isn't a brainless killing machine like Garrosh) to take the reins
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If he came back he would be Go'el. They're not going to hurl the character development that got him that name out the window.
They spoiled it for two reasons. First, the Horde storyline depicts the faction breaking up and turning baldly evil, and there are a lot of Horde players who would look at this and just plain quit if they didn't know what the endgame was. Second, they wanted to shut up the people who were obsessing over how there was no "main villain" they could build up to ludicrous heights and be disappointed over when they actually fought him.
The players - that's us - cannot handle being told a story over time.
Last edited by Drilnos; 2012-12-10 at 09:22 PM.
No, I would rather the opposite, him pay for war crimes putting a leader in charge that could have ended up killing the horde. I am not gonna let it slide that he totally failed at picking a leader of the Horde when the obvious leader should have been Cairne or Saurfang.
Time...line? Time isn't made out of lines. It is made out of circles. That is why clocks are round. ~ Caboose
Baine or Vol'jin, its time to let rest this old bullshit "orcs vs humans". This world should go further, peace should be with Alliance and Horde and together we should repel Sargeras from Azeroth.
I would like to see change, a non orc for Warchief would be really interesting with Nazgrim representing the orcs.
Those decisions came from the writers giving to much credence to the obnoxious fanbase who kept pining for war war war war war.
It lead to lore characters making moronic and out of character decisions, its not just Thrall. Jaina and Tyrande have suffered the same because the playerbase bitch about the lore, and yet can't let anything develop over time. The very reason Garrosh became what he is came down to that same player base gripping for more war war war.
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Nazgrims to much of a tool. There is no point having another moronic warrior leading the orcs when its obvious it failed to lead them in a good direction. 3 warrior warchiefs, and its never done any good.
#boycottchina
and Nazgrims a tool why?
Because he is a warrior?
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picking Suarfang or Cairne at that time would have had their own set of problems
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and War is bad why?
We have been at war for nearly every waking moment on Azeroth
We have faced trials and danger, threats to our world and our way of life. And yet, we persevere. We are the Horde. We will not let anything break our spirits!"
Thrall is a boring character, since his plots have been done already.
It became clear that it wasn’t realistic to try to get the audience back to being more hardcore, as it had been in the past. -- Tom Chilton
No, I want either Saurfang or Rexxar.