Why can't the women impose the same rules on their husbands then ?
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"There are a myriad of reasons why, but the easy, one sentence answer is, because they believe God has made it an obligation for believing women. In the Quran God tells the believing men and women to lower their gaze and to dress modestly. He (God) specifically addresses women when He asks them not to show off their adornment, except that which is apparent, and draw their veils over their bodies." (Quran 24:30-31)
That doesn't sound very open to interpretation.
I hear you. And I agree. But I tend to believe in striving to be better. Humans have the POTENTIAL to be amazing at self analysis. the whole issue is who has
1. tapped into that potential
2. is working to tap into it
3. doesnot give a crap of said potential.
If someone like me [I am niether the model human nor the model muslim or the model anything] can work towards it surely others can get it around their heads too. But everyone has a time delay mechanism, some are faster some are slower some just grasp a concept a different way.
Hell think about it this way. Even though I call myself muslim many of these extremists would call me non muslim or even try to kill me, because I have a friend who is gay, I am god father to a mildly christian mostly athiest girl, and was best man at two christian weddings. These are not accomplishments, these are common going ons in life, but someone would warp it to something crazy and nasty.
We cannot change the world in one clean sweep. And its even harder to change the opinion of people on a grand scale. Besides the aim to change someones opinion, in my belief should be the last thing on someones mind. People should be so busy working to better themselves that by the end of the day there is no time to blame or point fingers at another. There is no time for judgement, when progress demands 100%.
But then again 100% is not really reachable. However the intent to work towards it, makes all the difference in the world.
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I just want to say that I'm from Tunisia and the VERY LARGE majority of people don't give a shit If you cover your hair and It's rare that you do find a women who have her hair covered. A full burka is also illegal there.
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This isn't a quote from the Quran, there is nothing clear about "obligation" in these verses.
When you don't misquote it it's really open to interpretation. Who you're quoting is Aisha Stacey talking about HER personal interpretation of the Quran.
This is the actual translation of Quran 24:30-31 :
Then it also depends on the translation on which many people disagree ("their headscarves fall to cover their necklines" instead of chest for example)Originally Posted by Quran 24:30-31
Some read it as an obligation, some read it as an advice, some read "adornment" and "private parts" differently, some read this as an advice that should be adapted to current society. It is very open to interpretation. Quoting one particular interpretation of this as "Quran" is plain misinformation.
The hijab/burqa/niqab are cultural. Islam, through the Qur'an, only says to "dress modestly," and that is addressed to BOTH genders. The rest is cultural interpolation. Wearing a headscarf is NOT mandated by any religious Islamic primary source.
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I don't think we'll have a unified earth until we have space colonies, but hopefully I'm wrong. I'd love for their to be a single equitable and egalitarian government in the world.
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This is absolutely false and it's basically a worn out clause peddled by self-righteous atheists constantly. What does spiritual zen-Buddhism practiced by a hermit living in the mountains have to do with power or controlling others? At most, it has something to do with controlling yourself, and nothing more. The same is true for many other religions. Just because Christianity and some parts of Islam come across as seeking power and control does not entitle you to dismiss every single religion in the history of humanity as being purely about "power and control." That is a baseless and myopic conjecture that fails to address a myriad of issues, ranging from personal spirituality within the domain of religion to the fact that there are many religious traditions (see: Sufi Islam) that have nothing to do with anything in the physical world.religion is all about power and control.
It's a religious thing. Basically it's part of the tenets of Islam. Then again, another tenet of Islam is to convert all non-believers, make them slaves, or kill them.
But hey, when a majority of the believers in Islam can't upholad that tenet, why bother with the others....
Peaceful religion...
see to me, i would interpret that as to ensure your private areas are covered and.. well in a more "modern" phrase.. dont dress like a slag!.
Keep yourself dressed properly and covered appropriately. there is no real need for super short skirts and titties all over the place. Dress sensibly and don't unnecessarily flout your bits
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in general public for no reason at all. The mini was first "fashioned" in the 60's when everyone was shagging everything. So its no wonder the thought train is still there in some way.
I generally find most women who wear such attire crass and shallow and the only interesting thing about them is their looks. Go to Liverpool and see how many tangos slappers you can find. then try have a conversation with them. Thank god them Irish girls come over. Now they are proper women