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    Help me understand Frost

    So.. If I am reading correctly, I should ONLY be using Obliterate/Frost Strike as 2h? What do I do when Obliterate is on cool down or I have no runic power for Frost Strike? Just auto-attack and wait? lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdrianCC100 View Post
    I should ONLY be using Obliterate/Frost Strike as 2h?
    Not literally, but yes. In addition to Oblit and FS you should of course be keeping your diseases up, and utilizing Rime procs on Howling Blast.

    Quote Originally Posted by AdrianCC100 View Post
    What do I do when Obliterate is on cool down or I have no runic power for Frost Strike? Just auto-attack and wait? lol
    Often times, yes. However, there are a few other things you can do:

    • Horn of Winter will generate runic power, and with Glyph of the Loud Horn it will almost always generate enough runic power to use Frost Strike.
    • Talenting into Plague Leech can also reduce empty global cooldowns. More information about using Plague Leech can be found here.
    • You can also proactively prevent yourself from having empty globals by optimizing the amount of runic power you gain through Anti-Magic Shell. Glyph of Regenerative Magic can be very helpful with this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdrianCC100 View Post
    So.. If I am reading correctly, I should ONLY be using Obliterate/Frost Strike as 2h? What do I do when Obliterate is on cool down or I have no runic power for Frost Strike? Just auto-attack and wait? lol
    Couple of things you can do to prevent resource gluts

    1) Learn to maximize RP generation with proper AMS use
    2) get more haste on your gear
    3) learn to use plague leech optimally
    4) learn to use blood tap optimally

    2 and 3 are easy. 1 requires you to examine fights before hand so you can plan to use it. 4 will just require a lot of practice.

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    you got it right, 2h frost has the most duell and boring playstyle ever

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    Last edited by Darsithis; 2014-03-16 at 08:36 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wrien View Post
    you got it right, 2h frost has the most duell and boring playstyle ever
    As opposed to DW, where 7 out of 10 actions will be HB and FS.

    But not that you are biased or anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skarssen View Post
    As opposed to DW, where 7 out of 10 actions will be HB and FS.

    But not that you are biased or anything.
    I honestly thought he would've stopped that Frost sucks crusade by the time Mists launched. Guess I was wrong...

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    If only it was as low as 7 out of 10.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skarssen View Post
    4 will just require a lot of practice.
    I really don't feel blood tap is very difficult to get the hang of. With a decent level of haste, you can sequence it together with supplying that extra rune for obliterate without having to worry about capping blood tap charges as you'll be dumping it fairly consistently. It's also very handy for clutch soul reapers... you can just macro 'em right together.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wrien View Post
    you got it right, 2h frost has the most duell and boring playstyle ever
    Dual Wields howling blast and frost strike spam (oh wait, you can throw in oblits to dump your unholy runes for a minimal DPS gain at a lower gear level) is so much more compelling and fun.

    When are you going to stop QQ crybabying about this? Actually contribute something for once.

    @ OP, if you're having these gaps of downtime you either:

    a) dont ams soak enough
    b) have barely any haste on your gear
    c) dont use plague leech

    Try using plague leech and AMS soaking more first but if they still don't work then gear for a bit more haste until you have a nicely flowing stand still and DPS the boss segment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdrianCC100 View Post
    So.. If I am reading correctly, I should ONLY be using Obliterate/Frost Strike as 2h? What do I do when Obliterate is on cool down or I have no runic power for Frost Strike? Just auto-attack and wait? lol
    tbh if your gonna play 2h just go unholy its way better than 2h frost, but if yo uwanna play frost DW is far superior than 2h frost in pvp and pve

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    tbh if your gonna play 2h just go unholy its way better than 2h frost
    Not really. Unholy is better in certain situations, but generally frost is best. The problem with unholy is that when you have to target switch you are severely gimped compared to the instant damage frost offers.

    EDIT: Not to mention that frost, DW and 2H, offers instant ranged damage, where unholy needs to get up close in order to generate RP for death coils.
    Last edited by Acelius; 2014-03-17 at 11:15 AM.

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