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    Cards worth disenchanting?

    Anyone have a good list of all the worthless cards in Hearthstone that would be worth disenchanting? And please don't respond by saying "you should only disenchant golds if you have x2 copies of that card already". I'm not a completionist, I'm looking to clean my collection of all the crap cards.

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    You can't always say a given card is good or bad, for changes to balance or the meta can have a significant affect.
    Generally focus on a smaller number of decks at once, and disenchant those which are not needed.
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    Most people thought Harrison Jones was one of the top 10 worst cards in the game, now look at it. Practically required at a high ranking.

    Don't DE anything unless you've got more than you can put in a deck.

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    It entirely depends on the classes you play and the builds you make. Almost any card can be good in the right circumstances.
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    Here's a list of disechantable (I think) cards that I have never seen used in earnest in five seasons of playing at legendary rank. (1x means I've never seen more than one copy of that card in play). Obviously changed cards only reflect current state.

    Warrior

    1x brawl
    Commanding shout
    1x gorehowl
    Rampage

    Warlock
    Bane of Doom
    Blood Imp
    Corruption
    Demonfire
    Infernal
    Felguard
    Pit Lord
    Sacrificial Pact
    Sense Demons
    Summoning Portal
    Twisting Nether
    Void Terror

    Shaman
    Ancestral Spirit
    1x Bloodlust
    1x Doomhammer
    Dust Devil
    Earth Elemental
    Far Sight
    Totemic Might
    Windspeaker

    Rogue
    Betrayal
    Headcrack
    Kidnapper
    Master of Disguise
    Patient Assassin
    1x Sprint
    Vanish

    Priest (may not be fully accurate subject to low representation)
    Divine Spirit
    Innerfire
    Lightspawn
    Mass Dispel
    Mind Vision
    Mind Games
    Prophet Velen
    Shadowform
    Temple Enforcer

    Paladin
    Blessed Champion
    Eye for an Eye
    Humility
    Repentance

    Mage (may not be fully accurate subject to low representation)
    Blizzard
    Cone of Cold
    Counterspell
    Ethereal Arcanist
    Ice Barrier
    Ice Block
    Ice Lance
    Kirin Tor Mage
    Pyroblast
    Spellbender
    Vaporize

    Hunter
    Bestial Wrath
    Explosive Shot
    King Krush
    Snake Trap
    Snipe
    Tundra Rhino

    Druid
    Bite
    1x Force of Nature
    Ironbark protector
    Mark of Nature
    Moonfire
    Naturalize
    Savagery

    Neutral
    Alarm-o-bot
    Ancient Brewmaster
    Ancient Mage
    Angry Chicken
    Archmage
    Bloodsail Corsair
    Booty Bay Bodyguard
    Captain Greenskin
    Captain's Parrot
    Core Hound
    Cult Master
    Dalaran Mage
    Darkscale Healer
    Deathwing
    Demolisher
    Dragonling Mechanic
    Dread Corsair
    Elite Tauren Chieftain
    Emperor Cobra
    Fen Creaper
    Flesheating Ghoul
    Frost Elemental
    Gelbin Mekkatorque
    Gruul
    Gurubashi Berserker
    Hogger
    Hungry Crab
    Illidan Stormrage
    Jungle Panther
    Lightwarden
    Lorewalker Cho
    Mad Bomber
    Malygos
    Mana Wraith
    Master Swordsmith
    Millhouse Manastorm
    Mind Control Tech
    Mogushan Warden
    Nat Pagle
    Nozdormu
    Onyixia
    Pint-sized Summoner
    Priestess of Elune
    Questing Adventurer
    Ravenholdt Assassin
    Sea Giant
    Secret Keeper
    Silverhand Knight
    Silvermoon Guardian
    Southsea Captain
    Southsea Deckhand
    Spiteful Smith
    Stranglethorn Tiger
    Tauren Warrior
    The Beast
    Thrallmar Farseer
    Tinkmaster Overspark
    Venture Co. Mercenary
    Windfury Harpy
    Wisp
    Young Dragonhawk
    Youthful Brewmaster
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaiadam View Post
    Here's a list of disechantable (I think) cards that I have never seen used in earnest in five seasons of playing at legendary rank. (1x means I've never seen more than one copy of that card in play). Obviously changed cards only reflect current state.
    If he's asking this question, what happens at legend rank is irrelevant because he is obviously not at that rank.

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    Quote Originally Posted by runedhill View Post
    If he's asking this question, what happens at legend rank is irrelevant because he is obviously not at that rank.
    As true as that is, his list is not useful anyway. There are a lot of cards on his list used in competitive play. And since the op won't know which are which, the overall list is useless even though it contains many cards which can be disenchanted.

    Additionally the game is still very young, new ideas of play which incorporate different cards can still be found. On top of this Blizzard can change any card at any time if they feel it is underpowered or overpowered.
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    If he's asking this question, what happens at legend rank is irrelevant because he is obviously not at that rank.
    Well, no, but it's not like being at a lower rank suddenly makes a card better. If it has never been used seriously by the best players, or so rarely as to be insignificant, then chances are it's safe to disenchant.

    There are a lot of cards on his list used in competitive play.
    If, as the previous poster mentioned, by the question, the OP is not near legendary, then competitive decks, which may be formulated to counter specific other decks that may appear, are even less relevant. Also, I can't think of any cards used in recent tournaments that are on that list, although there are some borderline usable cards there.

    Additionally the game is still very young, new ideas of play which incorporate different cards can still be found. On top of this Blizzard can change any card at any time if they feel it is underpowered or overpowered.
    Obvious caveat for cards with unique effects that may change value with the meta. Also, the number of bad cards that were made decent in the history of Hearthstone beta can be counted on the fingers of one hand, literally. The only one I can think of right now is UTH, actually, were there more?
    Last edited by kaiadam; 2014-04-15 at 02:04 AM.

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    Where did he get that list?
    I suspect it is the most used card list

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaiadam View Post

    If, as the previous poster mentioned, by the question, the OP is not near legendary, then competitive decks, which may be formulated to counter specific other decks that may appear, are even less relevant. Also, I can't think of any cards used in recent tournaments that are on that list, although there are some borderline usable cards there.
    No, that's the point - the metas at high and low rankings are vastly different due to the availability of cards, so some which may not see much play at high rankings are still viable - even great - in lower rankings when they're not countered or made redundant.

    EG a shaman at low ranking can absolutely run double Earth Ele in his deck, because not everyone is rocking BGH's. Rogues can and will still use Questing Adventurer along with Conceal. Stuff like that
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    The list isnt useful at all, Just because one person hasnt seen them at his rank, doesnt mean they arent in play...

    as for "cleaning up" your deck list, d/e cards that you personally dont use... although its better to keep them as you may eventually change your deck to include some.

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    I tend to disenchant class cards for classes I have no intention playing in the forseeable future.

    In my case that is Priest & Paladin. Maybe Rogue.

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    Where did he get that list?
    I mentioned this, but those are cards I personally have not seen in about a thousand high-ranked games.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nikkaszal View Post
    No, that's the point - the metas at high and low rankings are vastly different due to the availability of cards, so some which may not see much play at high rankings are still viable - even great - in lower rankings when they're not countered or made redundant.

    EG a shaman at low ranking can absolutely run double Earth Ele in his deck, because not everyone is rocking BGH's. Rogues can and will still use Questing Adventurer along with Conceal. Stuff like that
    The metas are different less due to card availability and more due to player and deckbuilding mistakes. Earth elemental is simply a bad card through and through, whether it's used at rank 1 or 20 or whether the other guy has a BGH or not. In tournaments, your opponent is matched ahead of time, and you've already scouted out his deck classes and know most of the cards he runs. On the other hand, whether you're rank 1 or 20, you're still facing a nameless mass of opponents who could be running any class, any deck, any card. These two simply cannot be compared - in one situation, you're attempting to build a deck that has a higher than 50% weighted average win rate against all possible decks, in the other you're trying to build decks to snipe one another's known decks, etc.

    Just because a card gets punished less for being used at one ranking versus another doesn't make it a good card to use. It still has the inherent weaknesses, your opponents are simply not exploiting it enough. It's like the old dressing adage - you deckbuild and play at the rank you want to be, not the rank you're at. Unless you want to remain at your current rank, right?

    The list isnt useful at all, Just because one person hasnt seen them at his rank, doesnt mean they arent in play...
    As useless as you think the list is, it's a fair stretch more useful than essentially every other post, which are all more or less either saying "don't de anything but duplicates" - which the OP specifically mentioned he didn't want to hear - or disagreement with my list.

    Is it a perfect list? of course not, I've only played a thousand or so ranked games, and people come up with new ideas all the time. Just yesterday I came across a rogue deck that made a good argument to use Malygos, and if I made that list today, Malygos wouldn't be on it. On the other hand, if they aren't in play at legendary ranks, chances are the card is not good to play. Should everyone go and disenchant everything I listed? Of course not. Even if a card is bad, it may be the best alternative to a good card that a player doesn't have. This list is for the guy who has most cards, but needs dust for the ones he doesn't, and wants some ideas on what to toss.

    Regarding the list itself, I'm fairly sure people disagree with it because they run or see others run cards on it and need to validate their decks. It's not exactly an opinion piece, it's a fairly straightforward list of cards I don't play with or against, that's all. Take from it what you want.
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