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    How can I improve? (Resto)

    Hi all, I've come back to Shaman healing for WoD after not playing it since BC and I'm loving it so far, but I feel I'm not performing to the level I should be capable of.

    Here are the logs of our last full raid night: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports...QD3qW9#fight=3

    and here's my armoury: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte.../Sinh/advanced

    I get the feeling having 2 discs doesn't help as their absorbs do a great job of keeping health high which counteracts mastery.
    Our other Shaman is 5 or 6 ilvls lower than me but always seems to be higher on overall healing.

    Are my stats wrong? Icy Veins has our priority as Mastery > Haste > Crit/Multi but I figured Haste would suit me better due to our comp, would I see improvements if I switched my enchants around?

    I feel I'm casting efficiently, I often end fights on 30-40% mana besides Butcher, am I casting too efficiently?

    Any insights you can provide would be amazing, I'm still quite new to this whole healing thing.

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    You'd see better results if your guild used less healers (you're overhealing every fight in the instance), you went for Mastery instead of Haste, and you used your cooldowns more. A Resto Shaman is able to have a CD up for every single Infesting Spores. Ascendance => Healing Tide => Spirit Link => Repeat. If you can't justify doing something like that: "But it will be 99% overhealing!" that means you have too many healers.

  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by Lothrik View Post
    You'd see better results if your guild used less healers (you're overhealing every fight in the instance), you went for Mastery instead of Haste, and you used your cooldowns more. A Resto Shaman is able to have a CD up for every single Infesting Spores. Ascendance => Healing Tide => Spirit Link => Repeat. If you can't justify doing something like that: "But it will be 99% overhealing!" that means you have too many healers.
    We use mushrooms to deal with any Infesting Spores that we can, it feels like a waste of a CD if no one's dropping below 90%. I agree we have too many healers, but I'm not in a position to tell people how or what to play.

    I'll have to try mastery next week and see if there's an improvement, thanks for the tips

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    I recommend going mastery instead of haste. It won't necessarily improve your overall average numbers, but I think it has more value for progression on Imperator.

    I noticed on Ko'ragh attempts that the other shaman got more healing from his healing tide totem. Both of you used it after different shadow debuffs and had low overheal, but he got much more ticks. This isn't due to temporary haste buffs (e.g. if you spec into elemental mastery it'll increase the number of ticks of HTT if used together but both of you talented ancestral swiftness).

    It looks like his healing tide totem just hit more people -- Ko'ragh has a big room and your raid is spread around it, and in the replay we see the other shaman dropping HTT close to the center so its 40 yards range hits most of the raid, but you dropped it while you were in one side of the room, and it didn't reach many raid members who were on the opposite side.

    You can fix this either by moving closer to the center just before dropping it, or spec into totemic projection and project it to the center so it reaches the whole raid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HavelTheRock View Post
    Are my stats wrong? Icy Veins has our priority as Mastery > Haste > Crit/Multi but I figured Haste would suit me better due to our comp, would I see improvements if I switched my enchants around? [...] I feel I'm casting efficiently, I often end fights on 30-40% mana besides Butcher, am I casting too efficiently?
    Go with Icy Veins' stat priority. Just accept that you won't look too good on overall healing done when raiding with two discipline priests. If anyone in the guild argues, just link a more intense phase of a fight - you'll probably be doing most of the work when there's the most work to be done. And yes, if you end with 30-40% mana then you can afford to be a bit more aggressive (or lose some spirit). Just make sure you keep those spirit items in your bags, because heroic Imperator is cruel.

    Quote Originally Posted by HavelTheRock View Post
    Here are the logs of our last full raid night: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports...QD3qW9#fight=3
    You're not using your indirect healing spells enough. Your Earth Shield sometimes falls off and isn't refreshed for a long time, you're often a bit slow to use Healing Stream Totem even if there's healing needed, you only used Elemental Blast very sparsely on most fights, your Healing Rain uptime needs work, and your use of Riptide is extremely low. Riptide in particular should be used whenever it's off cooldown, especially since you have the High Tide talent. If no one needs healing then just cast it on the tanks. Also try to always keep Healing Rain up on fights like Butcher and Imperator. Even if no one needs healing right now, they will soon and since Healing Rain isn't instant it's better to cast it before it's needed. Healing Rain should pretty much be your #1 healing spell on heroic Butcher.

    You could have used your big cooldowns a bit more. For example on Butcher, there isn't really any reason to not use it near the start of the fight. It'll be up again for the enrage, and using it on the early cleaves saves a bit of mana. On Tectus you also waited more than seven minute before using HTT the first time. Same thing with Ascendance. On Kargath you didn't use any of them. Try to plan in advance when you'll use your different cooldowns, and if there's no good time (or they'll be up again for the good time) then just use them to save some mana.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lothrik View Post
    You'd see better results if [...] you went for Mastery instead of Haste...
    Strongly disagree. You might see better overall numbers on healing meters with haste, but you'll be less useful. The only time haste outperforms mastery is on trivial content with too many healers, but none of that extra healing is actually useful, and it did absolutely nothing to help your raid defeat the boss. You could just as well have gone AFK instead and no one would notice. Mastery, however, is still useful in case something goes wrong and your healing is actually needed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lothrik View Post
    ...and you used your cooldowns more. A Resto Shaman is able to have a CD up for every single Infesting Spores. Ascendance => Healing Tide => Spirit Link => Repeat. If you can't justify doing something like that: "But it will be 99% overhealing!" that means you have too many healers.
    Again, that's really only useful for looking good on healing meters. The mushrooms will handle the AoE healing for you, and any healing you do will just cause the mushrooms to overheal instead. It's a healing gimmick fight, and the entire point of Brackenspore is that you heal the mushrooms and then the mushrooms heal the raid. Save your cooldowns in case something goes terribly wrong and your raid can't get to a green mushroom in time.
    Diplomacy is just war by other means.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alltat View Post
    Strongly disagree. You might see better overall numbers on healing meters with haste, but you'll be less useful.
    Uh.. did you even read my post? Do you not understand what "Mastery instead of Haste" means? So confused right now.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alltat View Post
    Again, that's really only useful for looking good on healing meters. The mushrooms will handle the AoE healing for you, and any healing you do will just cause the mushrooms to overheal instead. It's a healing gimmick fight, and the entire point of Brackenspore is that you heal the mushrooms and then the mushrooms heal the raid. Save your cooldowns in case something goes terribly wrong and your raid can't get to a green mushroom in time.
    It's this exact line of thinking that makes people think Resto Shamans are bad healers, you have a toolkit and are refusing to actually use it when it matters. All of the damage outside of Infesting Spores is either completely avoidable or pure single target damage, why on earth would you save raid CDs for this? Better question: why would you save THREE raid CDs for this?

    Quote Originally Posted by Alltat View Post
    It's a healing gimmick fight, and the entire point of Brackenspore is that you heal the mushrooms and then the mushrooms heal the raid.
    Please, tell me more. I had NO idea. ಠ_ಠ
    Last edited by Lothrik; 2015-01-27 at 04:07 PM.

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