No logs, but need advice.

[touche1991jl]

I do not have logs, but i will explain into detail what i do.

Group size and healer comp. 2/4/9
(686)Resto Shaman, (685)Resto Druid, (680)Disc Priest and (679)MW monk

Issue is on H Blackhand and some other fight

Raid Leader does not want me to use Revival on demolitions, only for an emergency heal on 2nd phase or 3rd phase transition.

I keep ReM on 6 targets or try to get more, but usually 6.
Soothing mist when no damage or little damage is coming out.
Expel harm to build chi when needed (ReM helps with chi stacks)
4chi i expend chi on uplifts or enveloping mist+soothing mist
Chi Burst when its viable to use so i do not overheal consistently with it.
I try to rushing jade wind when possible when grouped up(Mostly first and 3rd phase)
Life Caccoon on tanks when they need it or when we need a tank cooldown.
I ofc take advantage of soothing mist + renewing mist when there is little dmg going out for the multistrike buff

Our group seems pretty small we sometimes run 2/3/8 or 2/4/10 and my heals are behind on some fights.

As i said i do no have logs, but id like some advice for myself and for some valid points that i can share with my raid leader.

I do make mistakes so i am not perfect and hopefully you can account for that, i do not have my 690 ring and im 679.

Armory link: I can not link my armory currently but my monks name is Touchè-Zul'jin (Name+Realm)

[Tehterokkar]

Your raid leader is right, you want to save Revival for when you are about to transition to either: A) Top everyone off before phase-damage comes or B) Top everyone off after phase-damage comes. Latter is preferred, but use first option if it will save lives.

You didn't exactly specify what you are having issues with though: P1, P2, P3?

[Volibear]

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...h%C3%A8/simple

OPs armory link for reference.

[SlippyCheeze]

Hey. The single biggest thing you can do to improve your performance is start getting logs. You don't have to spend a long time looking at them each week, but they let you go back after the night and figure out what maybe could have been better, or check relative performance of your spells, and overhealing, and see if that was off, or whatever.

[Djriff]

Hey. The single biggest thing you can do to improve your performance is start getting logs. You don't have to spend a long time looking at them each week, but they let you go back after the night and figure out what maybe could have been better, or check relative performance of your spells, and overhealing, and see if that was off, or whatever.

This.

You can also post them in the fix my monk thread and people will most likely peruse your logs and tell you your shortfalls and the things you're doing right.

From your description, it sounds pretty spot on, majority of the dmg in P1 is avoidable, but a lot of people just power heal on through. Your RL is spot on, revival can be the best CD in the game when used at precisely the right time.

[Deleted]

Think of it like this.
If people aren't dying, you basically wasted your CD (or used to pad meters).

Revival is the only CD in the game that is instant. That gives the monk the oppertunity to use it in an emergency. I am not a big fan of assigning revival to a specific point.
Yes, you might have points you simply can't survive without revival, and using it at those point would be obvious. But revival doesn't work like tide or tranq, you should hold on to revival untill the very last secound to see if the revival is actually neeeded or you're free to save it for later.

If you can survie p1 consistently without revival, I see no point using it in that phase.
However tide is a lot stronger in p2 that revival, and if you're lacking balcony damage and you need to use CD's in p2, I suggest you swap around the assignments and save the tide for phase 2.

P3 is a burn phase, go into that phase with a lot of mana and stacks, and spin for days.

[touche1991jl]

My issue is, i barely ever get to raid heal in 2nd phase, not using revival 1st phase makes me look like i am doing terrible. pulling 30k hps before transition and spiking up to 40k or so near the end of 3rd phase. My issue being, the shaman which is the raid leader is questioning my ability to heal, whats funny is, his train of thought, lets get carried on H BH... the dps we have are not mechanically inclined and always fuck up the 2nd phase, and im the fall guy because my hps is the lowest due to how we are doing our cooldowns.

Raidleader: Healer is the lowest lets bring a mythic disc priest so we can down H BH, its pretty unfair how he see's things, instead of the dps keeps fucking up we need to replace them, its hps is too low to keep the dps who keep fucking up so we are going to bring something better so we can fix the people who are not mechanically inclined. Thats how i see it.

I am also having an issue where i am always stuck on the tank while the disc, druid and shaman are raid healing.

[Djriff]

My issue is, i barely ever get to raid heal in 2nd phase, not using revival 1st phase makes me look like i am doing terrible. pulling 30k hps before transition and spiking up to 40k or so near the end of 3rd phase. My issue being, the shaman which is the raid leader is questioning my ability to heal, whats funny is, his train of thought, lets get carried on H BH... the dps we have are not mechanically inclined and always fuck up the 2nd phase, and im the fall guy because my hps is the lowest due to how we are doing our cooldowns.

Raidleader: Healer is the lowest lets bring a mythic disc priest so we can down H BH, its pretty unfair how he see's things, instead of the dps keeps fucking up we need to replace them, its hps is too low to keep the dps who keep fucking up so we are going to bring something better so we can fix the people who are not mechanically inclined. Thats how i see it.

I am also having an issue where i am always stuck on the tank while the disc, druid and shaman are raid healing.

To your first point, 2nd phase I mostly fistweave and use surging on people that have taken some damage, along with liberal use of life cocoon. Your healing is going to be low on that phase because unless your stands group sucks at life the damage going out in p2 is fairly minimal, mostly avoidable as well. P3 is where shit gets really hectic and you need all the healing you can get. As to your raid leaders idea of being carried on H BH, I've successfully carried my guild when Bhand was progression for it on my mythic geared disc priest and it made p1 and p2 a joke. If it helps push the phase and the guild gets a kill, albeit without you, don't bitch about it, its guild progression.

A lot of the damage on blackhand is avoidable or can be reduced by personal CD's and stuff like that. If you have a disc priest in your raid group already, if your RL wants to bring a mythic disc priest, then your current disc priest is the one who should be sat, not you. You can power heal through some mechanics, but not all of them.

Honestly they have a pretty nice toolset for raid healing. Without knowing what class your tanks are, I can't say whether its right or wrong, however disc is better suited for raid healing on this fight in particular as their shields can be the difference between 5 people living or dying. No one should really need to focus tank heal on bhand, just make sure all of you are throwing your heals on the tank and not letting them drop. ie PW:S on both tanks, Rejuv/Lifebloom on the tanks, Earth Shield + riptide and you can SoM and SuM heal the tank if need be.

[Kuroii]

i use revival in the 2nd demolition in the first phase so it can be up during the third phase

[Volibear]

The ENTIRE point of using raid CDs in Phase 1 is to conserve mana that would normally be used for burst healing. The more mana the healers have in Phase 3, the better.

[Tehterokkar]

The ENTIRE point of using raid CDs in Phase 1 is to conserve mana that would normally be used for burst healing. The more mana the healers have in Phase 3, the better.

If you don't use CDs in Mythic, you will die. No amount of healer mana will save you :P.

You spend all the mana necessary in P1 as P2 is no raid damage if done properly so you can regen it back before P3 comes.

[Deleted]

Problem located.

Group size and healer comp. 2/4/9

(680)Disc Priest

[Gonaluvuhard]

Get some logs and people will be able to help you so much more

[touche1991jl]

I have gotten some logs, 16 wipes and 1 kill, so i only got to see phase 3 maybe 6 times?

For the kill we had a mythic druid in our group, which i dont think we needed.

I cannot post the link sadly :/

https : //www . warcraftlogs . com/reports/rpZKnkYGR2cM3qvw#type=summary&boss=-2&source=1

[Volibear]

What talents and glyphs are you using?

[touche1991jl]

depending on the fight ill change them

1/3/1/3/1/1/3

[Deleted]

OP's log summary:
htt ps: //www .warcraftlogs.c om/rankings/character/8761353/latest/#boss=0

[vulena]

8 Expel Harm casts in 6 and a half minutes is 18 Expel Harms too few.