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    Solo PvP class for Legion?

    I've been playing on and off since Classic and I believe I do have a general knowledge of the game. However I always try to avoid learning things about new expansions so when I log in I find these new amazing things (oh wow, roll the bones! oh wow, Stitches for a pet! and etc.), so yeah, Legion took me by surprise.

    I usually enjoy logging in at night and play a random BG or two, do some world quests with occasional RBGs and Arena. So what I'm looking for a class that's pretty self-reliant, has self healing and is able to stand a chance against any enemy in 1v1 situation. As far as I know self healing is severely nerfed in Legion.

    I don't have any specific requests, since I've mained a Rogue, a Hunter, a Warlock and a Death Knight throughout my WoW career. I'd appreciate any advice.
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    Self sustained... self healing... nice damage... sturdy as a tank... bordeline op.... yepp sounds like you should go for Affliction Lock this expansion! Have fun!
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    all of the ones you listed(except maybe hunters?) would fit that category.. so just pick whichever you think is the most fun.

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    I've not touched a DK, so I can't comment on those, but of the others you listed I found both Hunter and Warlock to be boring. Warlock would definitely fit your criteria though.

    Outlaw rogue I've found to be really fun to play. Good damage, good CC, and of course stealth and when you get lucky with the roll...you destroy things.

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    That random Roll mechanic on Outlaw is freaking me out to be honest. They are strong at level 100, I have no idea about 110 though.
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    so you played for a while and never noticed that druids are the masterclass for soloing?

    woot!

    how about 4th spec and most of their specs dominating people in pvp? Have you tried a healer ever?

    Didn't you notice feral in duels?

    Owls in rbgs?

    Rdruids in arenas?

    and all of this gets more potent in legion due to the def and self heal reduce for some classes in legion.

    however, there are still the pvp templates that could ruin any strategy about it.


    currently affliction lock is very tanky and has good templates, too. but 1 spec can easily ruined by changes, though. try a 4 spec class.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rucktoe View Post
    I've not touched a DK, so I can't comment on those, but of the others you listed I found both Hunter and Warlock to be boring. Warlock would definitely fit your criteria though.

    Outlaw rogue I've found to be really fun to play. Good damage, good CC, and of course stealth and when you get lucky with the roll...you destroy things.
    outlaw is the weakest of the rogue specs in pvp, forget this quickly.

    try sub and never look back, its friggin easy now to use, too. No need to outheal someone with its obnoxious burst dmg, if it gets nerfed instantly switch to assassine rogue who no longer could be called mutilate......cause mutilate and poisons do nothing at all you rupture things to death.

    But thats not what he wants - i am sure he wants affliction lock, ww monk or any kind of druid. he should download the friggin beta or ptr and do premades and watch their heals and mobility.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrannica View Post
    outlaw is the weakest of the rogue specs in pvp, forget this quickly.
    Things change, but the core mechanics of Outlaw are both fun and effective.

    Plus, I really like the looks of Outlaw pvp talents. Control is king should solve the biggest problem Outlaws have currently, that is not enough energy. A Blood Elf Outlaw is going to have a big advantage with this since they have a silence to activate adrenaline rush which will also reduce cooldowns when you open up the dread blades talent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lexonio View Post
    I've been playing on and off since Classic and I believe I do have a general knowledge of the game. However I always try to avoid learning things about new expansions so when I log in I find these new amazing things (oh wow, roll the bones! oh wow, Stitches for a pet! and etc.), so yeah, Legion took me by surprise.

    I usually enjoy logging in at night and play a random BG or two, do some world quests with occasional RBGs and Arena. So what I'm looking for a class that's pretty self-reliant, has self healing and is able to stand a chance against any enemy in 1v1 situation. As far as I know self healing is severely nerfed in Legion.

    I don't have any specific requests, since I've mained a Rogue, a Hunter, a Warlock and a Death Knight throughout my WoW career. I'd appreciate any advice.
    I am same way, i always look for a class that is fun in Casual BGs and Great 1v1. For past 9 years it was Ret and I love it, it was not that great in rated pvp asp RBGs but when it came to 1v1, def one of the best if not the best. Currently Ret unfortunately does not fit the "fun" part and "self sufficient part", i would suggest you Drood (ferals or boomy) both are still good and pretty fun + great mobility. Personally I am going to try out DH-Vengeance (DPS spec), i do not have betta access but from what i can judge from pvp legion videos/streams DH is man fun/ great mobility (second to WW) and pretty decent 1v1 (even though it lacks the self healing outside of Meta, so not sure if youd like it cuz of it), but my advise would be try UA/Drood till the DH become available then try out DH

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    Feral has always been the solo pvp god imo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Younggunn187 View Post
    Feral has always been the solo pvp god imo
    I rek every feral on my lock without even trying lol

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    Rogues look good, but I've tried (lvl 100 I know) killing a Demonology Warlock as an Outlaw and well... It didn't work out so well with all his shields, demons, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shapeduz View Post
    Well i bet u didnt eat ferals last patch. Locks (aff atleast) just got even more stupid healing then ferals do now.
    Wait until 110.

    They just stand still in their aura mastery circle pressing drain life and you can't do anything to stop it, it outheals all your damage and does way too much damage. Only thing that can really beat is sub/outlaw as they have multiple things they can use to stop it. Fun spec design.

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    Yes Shapeduz, I was mainly speaking of level 110. Judging by your beta experience, are DKs not worthy in solo PvP environment? They always were, well, in previous expansions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lexonio View Post
    Yes Shapeduz, I was mainly speaking of level 110. Judging by your beta experience, are DKs not worthy in solo PvP environment? They always were, well, in previous expansions.
    Blood Dks are still good, frost and UH are not that great from my personal exp (for solo pvp that is, UH is very good in BGs/Arenas).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snegovik View Post
    Blood Dks are still good, frost and UH are not that great from my personal exp (for solo pvp that is, UH is very good in BGs/Arenas).
    Well, random BGs usually equal 1v1 pvp since you can't count on healers. Well, thanks, looks like I'll be playing Rogue when Legion hits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lexonio View Post
    Well, random BGs usually equal 1v1 pvp since you can't count on healers. Well, thanks, looks like I'll be playing Rogue when Legion hits.
    But dont forget about pvp templates that re active in PvP instances, tanks are hugely nerfed aka 25% flat dmg decrease, 0% versality, 80% prime stats only, 50% dmg nerf to main spell multipliers each tank is dif but they all get nerfed in pvp instanced, aka not as good as some dps (UA locks)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snegovik View Post
    But dont forget about pvp templates that re active in PvP instances, tanks are hugely nerfed aka 25% flat dmg decrease, 0% versality, 80% prime stats only, 50% dmg nerf to main spell multipliers each tank is dif but they all get nerfed in pvp instanced, aka not as good as some dps (UA locks)
    yeah, but the UA lock can be easily nerfed via templates too, like to the ground like tanks. Blizz just don't do it, because this obscurity will merely only last 30 days. After that they will be fixed pretty quickly if its needed at lvl110 with those templates.

    I go with whatever has the best class/spec design, gameflow, and good mobility/survive in their spec, pvp and artefact talent-tree. And so far i can tell not every spec is balanced on that area, like for example frost dks are really only damage bots, without anything else of use. Meaning, they MUST deal good damage because almost every talent is dedicated to it, but suck everythere else - while windwalker, any druid spec and also arms seem quite in a good shape, blizzard can only change numbers here not the design its set in stone now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrannica View Post
    yeah, but the UA lock can be easily nerfed via templates too, like to the ground like tanks. Blizz just don't do it, because this obscurity will merely only last 30 days. After that they will be fixed pretty quickly if its needed at lvl110 with those templates.

    I go with whatever has the best class/spec design, gameflow, and good mobility/survive in their spec, pvp and artefact talent-tree. And so far i can tell not every spec is balanced on that area, like for example frost dks are really only damage bots, without anything else of use. Meaning, they MUST deal good damage because almost every talent is dedicated to it, but suck everythere else - while windwalker, any druid spec and also arms seem quite in a good shape, blizzard can only change numbers here not the design its set in stone now.
    Yeh i dont really care about balance @ lvl 100 since its pre patch, who cares if some spec are OP for 1 month .But i was watching recently beta skrimish Savix (2.5k xp Ret) with a prot war vs UA lock/X dps class, they killed dps class, then they had to run behind pillar each and eat while other was attacking, hence they had to play tag game with UA lock just to have a chance to beat him lol. Yes, Blizzard can and probably will fix it but the question how long will it take them to fix, cough cough Hunter's zoo 1st season of MOP.

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    I always loved my rogue for pure solo play. Mostly because you can pick your fights and vanish when you did your thing. Everytime when I play on my healer, I get mongloid tunnelvisioned by a random warrior who can't play for shit but won't leave me alone, folllowing me all over the map keeping me in combat, I wish I was on my rogue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lexonio View Post
    Well, random BGs usually equal 1v1 pvp since you can't count on healers. Well, thanks, looks like I'll be playing Rogue when Legion hits.
    I think rogue is always a safe bet for a solo PvP experience. Whether you're trying to back door objectives, pick off stray targets, or attack healers in teh back-line, you have the tools to make an impact solo. I find rogues pretty hard to kill right now too. They have a lot of survival mechanics that seems to let them stay at zero health just long enough to wreck my world.

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