How to compete in the M+ Invitational 101

[Korban]

Pretty sure resto druids are ok at dps too.
http://imgur.com/8nrKKLV

He is the best rdruid in the world though.

This druid shit needs to be nerfed.

/signed
Resto Sham

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Probably because from a raid standpoint, VDH have literally nothing else going for them in comparison to other tanks besides their DPS, which is dependent on not moving too much.

From a mythic + standpoint, VDH is broke af

Check logs on mythic raids... VDH isnt highest. The only thing they can do is be most offensive tank if they gear for it at the price of survivability.

SO yes, in heroic raids, VDH is a monster in dam, but once they need proper survivability damage goes down QUICKLY. Same for high tyrannical.

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You got roasted boi

i did 1.9mil dps on Desolate Host as VDH, solod the spirit phase. can u do that?

On mythic desolated host?

[Dangg]

OP where is your teamcomp? can't find it in the top 32

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OP where is your teamcomp? can't find it in the top 32

Yeah lot of BM hunters and Elemental shamans in the top teams...

[dirtybrew]

Thread predictions are ehhhhhhhhhhh

There are a variety of tanks who have done keys in the 20-23 range with only dks doing a 24. Not that huge a gap.

Arms/Sub/Affliction/Boomy/MM are the strongest most flexible dps

BM and is only decent for BRES or if the hunt sucks at moving. Ele shaman almost non existant.

[dreamdaddy]

This druid shit needs to be nerfed.

/signed
Resto Sham

They should let all Healers have a talent or playstyle where they can do decent dps as a trade off for not healing as well or efficiently.

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Thread predictions are ehhhhhhhhhhh

There are a variety of tanks who have done keys in the 20-23 range with only dks doing a 24. Not that huge a gap.

Arms/Sub/Affliction/Boomy/MM are the strongest most flexible dps

BM and is only decent for BRES or if the hunt sucks at moving. Ele shaman almost non existant.

It was obvious for anyone pushing high keys that Ele shaman would never be a top pick... In high fortified bosses are still a problem (when i watched Fragnance stream, a lot of their runs where failed on a boss). The damage loss on ST is just not worth it when a warrior can do the same damage on packs and way more on bosses.

[Riistov]

drums = 25% haste. when you compete to be the best in the world, you want every little bit of power.

Yup....Was thinking along similar lines. Also, the three classes that can lust are all strong in M+, there is no reason not to bring a Shaman/Hunter/Mage

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BM and is only decent for BRES or if the hunt sucks at moving. Ele shaman almost non existant.

Ele is very strong in M+ and has decent representation. Not sure where you're getting that from.

They've been one of the better M+ specs since launch.

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Ele is very strong in M+ and has decent representation. Not sure where you're getting that from.

They've been one of the better M+ specs since launch.

Very strong in terms of what, dps? dps is a non-issue. The final cut is made by utility, survivability and the effectiveness of each class with different m+ affixes. Nearly all abilites which are doing over 1 mil base damage on M+0 are one shotting ele shamans with 4.5 mil hp and prydaz on +20 even without tyrannical.

[Tiyr]

Ele is very strong in M+ and has decent representation. Not sure where you're getting that from.

They've been one of the better M+ specs since launch.

People in this thread are talking about pushing very high keys to compete in the M+ tournament. At the moment it looks like in the 32 teams to qualify for the next round, only one is using a DPS Shaman. Not exactly "decent representation".

[BiggestNoob]

I'm hoping this competition sees actual warrior nerfs, because they're not just a little bit overpowered. They don't have a huge amount of utility and yet they're in nearly every team, seeing the amount of damage frag was doing post-nerfs was utterly stupid.

That and some utility changes to make other comps more generally viable would be nice. Unfortunately I think the actual tournament is going to be easy dungeons and high gear so the tuning issues in dungeons won't be apparent, but the comps will be.

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Yup....Was thinking along similar lines. Also, the three classes that can lust are all strong in M+, there is no reason not to bring a Shaman/Hunter/Mage

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Ele is very strong in M+ and has decent representation. Not sure where you're getting that from.

They've been one of the better M+ specs since launch.

In low m+ they seem impressive because they burst adds down so fast, but their ST damage is their downfall. You can't just carry an Aoe build Ele on a boss fight,even in fortified week. And if the Ele build ST, then he still has mediocre ST damage and his Aoe damage is now only decent.

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I'm hoping this competition sees actual warrior nerfs, because they're not just a little bit overpowered. They don't have a huge amount of utility and yet they're in nearly every team, seeing the amount of damage frag was doing post-nerfs was utterly stupid.

That and some utility changes to make other comps more generally viable would be nice. Unfortunately I think the actual tournament is going to be easy dungeons and high gear so the tuning issues in dungeons won't be apparent, but the comps will be.

If the keys are low (compared to what they are doing right now) it will heavily favor warriors (you can do monster pulls and just burst them down so fast). Warriors only weaknesses is their survability which can be exposed in high Tyranical dungeons (or even fortified tbh, just look at the fragnance stream from last week) and the fact that they are melees.