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[hosehead]

The guy does understand that, pallies are a hybrid class while mages are a pure dps class?

Hey - you guys also make tables too..

[hosehead]

Quote for great truthiness.

I've always maintained that Arena should be TTR style.  The TTR is fair, equal, and honest.  Live arena's are like an ePeen indicator, "how long have you been in Arena" measurements.

I'm sure some of that will change with the advent of persistent personal ratings, however I really do love the idea of how the TTR worked.

I think that if you still queued and everything from the live realms, then when you queue it translocates you the TTR lobby where you're your TTR toon (obviously you can replace TTR with "live arena realm thingy").  Where you still get currency for your "live realm" toon to buy up some gears, but having a stat like resilience and then changing all the PvE mechanics around PvP?  A little like in Reno 911 when Jonsey sticks his dick in the peanut butter - you've got your PvP in my PvE.

I never claimed to be some uber elite arena meister, but I will admit the couple of times I started getting a groove on I'd meet up against a team that had at least a full brutal partner.. warrior or healer.. and just sink my rating =) So I gave up on arena and just do BGs as losing can still at least be "Fun". I would usually meet up with this team around the 1680 bracket. Weaksauce, I know, but again my resilience never got much higher than 250.. Arena is fun, but stacked teams are the bane of it's entertainment factor.. it's obvious that it's a friend helping out another friend - which is fine, I guess, it's just a shame to fight 7/10 games against one of those teams.. (obviously queue at a different time, I know, but sometimes I only have a certain slot of time when me and my partners are on where we actually play PvP vs. farm or PvE.).. so.. in all, I look forward to the new Arena @ 80.

Does anyone have any idea of how well resilience is (or isn't) scaling for 80? I guess I could look up the PvP gear itemisation from a while back, or someone who's been following it can interject. But for now, it's off to work.

[bloodwine77]

I have a newbish question regarding this post. Why would you not want Dragonhawk against a Warrior? Does dodging them give them more rage or something? Is that it?

[ToxTheWrecker]

Really? Still tossing around Sudden Death? It's like seeing a heartattack before it happens but you're not sure when it'll strike; so it just wears you out.
Sudden Death makes playing Arms fun, seeing big numbers- but it's not like you get to use it all the time. It procs, higher the crit, the better. Which, besides Bladestorm, gives the Arms tree a worthwhile point of even being played.
IMHO. I'm glad they will wait until 80, because they should know, about midrange 70, our crit will be crap... saying around 25-35%. Compared to my 43% in PvP gear unbuffed.

Then again, warriors are HEAVILY dependant on gear so.. we'll see if it's warrented for a nerf.

[Torrian]

about the warrior, is it correct that the sudden death stays at 30% and that it is not going to change to 10% of hit proc? don't get the rng aspect or so


greetings

No, suddent death is still being changed to proc 10% on hit. They were thinking about nerfing it even further past 10%, then decided against it (for now at least).

[Tyvlen]

I have a newbish question regarding this post. Why would you not want Dragonhawk against a Warrior? Does dodging them give them more rage or something? Is that it?

Im not a warrior expert, but i think like every 8sec overpower can be used which is a fairly decent hitting ability that can only be used after your opponent dodges. basicly it gives warriors another ability to use on u.

[konju]

Im not a warrior expert, but i think like every 8sec overpower can be used which is a fairly decent hitting ability that can only be used after your opponent dodges. basicly it gives warriors another ability to use on u.

Yup, there's long been a discussion as to whether or not the 18% to dodge would be worthwhile for the Overpower ability.

I think Overpower gives you the ability to hit that within 5seconds after being dodged. So, the warrior gets dodged and he hits Overpower. 3seconds later, he gets dodged and before that timer can run out he has the ability to overpower again.

The question then becomes if it is worthwhile to accept an 8second hard hitting ability or if the additional dodge still makes it more worthwhile. It's one of those Random Number Generator things that make the idea of WoW being an eSport...well...not an eSport.

[Deleted]

Yup, there's long been a discussion as to whether or not the 18% to dodge would be worthwhile for the Overpower ability.

I think Overpower gives you the ability to hit that within 5seconds after being dodged. So, the warrior gets dodged and he hits Overpower. 3seconds later, he gets dodged and before that timer can run out he has the ability to overpower again.

The question then becomes if it is worthwhile to accept an 8second hard hitting ability or if the additional dodge still makes it more worthwhile. It's one of those Random Number Generator things that make the idea of WoW being an eSport...well...not an eSport.

Actually, after 3.0 Overpower is on 1 sec cooldown for an arms warrior with the right talents so it will more or less be available constantly to the warrior and it has a 50% crit chance as well. Overpower itself can not be dogded or avoided. So anything a hunter can do to decrease the dodge rate is recommended against a warrior. With Glyph of Overpoer the Overpower now also has a 50% chance to proc on parry as well.

[Ufalah]

Again proof that Blizzard is balancing around lvl 70, and not 80.

Read the Warrior part.

The part where they said warriors should do near equal damage to rogues or the part where they said they weren't nerfing Sudden Death?

[Olando]

Again proof that Blizzard is balancing around lvl 70, and not 80.

Read the Warrior part.

Excactly, they will wait till 80 to check out what arms does then but boy will they ever nerf Ret to ground right now because of all the QQ.

[Olando]

The part where they said warriors should do near equal damage to rogues or the part where they said they weren't nerfing Sudden Death?

No, this part.

...but we will probably not mess with it until we see Arms at 80 on Live in PvP and PvE to get a better idea of how the build is doing.

[g0rge]

well...at least my priest is a whatever healer now...lol...thank god I trade armor for versatility.

[stupid11]

Yes, this is major SPriest concern... VT triggering replenishment.... oh wait.
Maybe for a change Blizz might focus on something really important? I mean,our usefulness got nerfed to the ground and all Blizz is doing, is explaining VT>replenishment? I haven't seen one frecking post anywhere asking to change this combination. What the hell?

It's like I am asking my boss for a raise, and he's explaining me how to get to a toilet in our office.... I KNOW how to get there, I DON'T NEED to be told why VT trigers replenishment. I DO NEED anything to help me being UTILITY class...

Sorry, but however much you QQ you will NOT BE A UTILITY CLASS ANYMORE. GET OVER IT.

No one is a utility class, everyone is a "damage" class. Basically you just have to either 1) learn how to not set your dots and afk mindflay, or 2) ask for dps buffs.

[tahome]

Blizzard did listen.

They've been telling us about this "plan" for the past year. And since then all they've said is that they... have plans.

And frankly, everything else he said about Ferals just shows that they don't know what they're talking about. I was really excited about LK until I read this, honestly. Well, I'm still excited but, ....

[Breakdown]

NOTHING ABOUT WARLOCKS? >
doubleyoo tee eff.