im sorry to say this but i disagree whit you , even if you hump pilars like no one else , kite the best you can and time all your stuff properly shadow wont stand a chance in 2's and 3's (5's well .. well see), if they see a dark thingy they go for it and your dead. Ok you mencion spec ... not all want to go disc (at least i dont) and completly change your gameplay ... i am not a pvp god or even close but i know one thing .. cleave teams own cloth and 8 out of 10 (in my batle group) are mele fests.Originally Posted by Devia