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    Ret: Libram or T10?

    So my first set of badges should I save up for a piece of T10 or go for the ret libram?

    here's a link to my armory:

    http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...and&n=Kisaragi

    i think i should save up for the libram first but could use more opinions.

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    Re: Ret: Libram or T10?

    go for libram imo,

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    Re: Ret: Libram or T10?

    As far as badge for badge worth I would say the libram will yield the highest return...

    The cheapest T10 piece is 60 badges and will only yield a slight upgrade in terms of dps output...

    The libram however is a constant +220str for the duration of the fight after reaching the 5th stack (which comes long before the death of most bosses even in 5mans....and its only 30 badges.

    Imo if you are not upgrading a green armor piece for T10 then the libram will be the best choice...but I could be very wrong...but I doubt it.

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    Re: Ret: Libram or T10?

    The libram should be your last purchase. On single target fights, Valiance vs the new libram, you have to be attacking a target for more than 80 seconds before it becomes a dps gain. Its very useful for our other seals, but thats just too situational for my tastes. Libram will be my last abdge purchase.

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    Re: Ret: Libram or T10?

    The libram upgrade isn't as huge an upgrade as the pvp libram to the valiance libram. With this one you're not gaining that much. Start working on your t10.

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    Re: Ret: Libram or T10?

    The Libram is a whooping 20 Strength increase. Where as you will NEED the badge Tier Pieces if you plan on ever upgrading into the 25 Normal/Heroic Pieces. My advise would be to at least get the Tier 10 2 piece before you buy anything else. 2 Piece Tier 9 and 2 Piece Tier 10 is going to be a pretty amazing combination.

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    Re: Ret: Libram or T10?

    Get Tier, period.

    The libram is only a 20 Str upgrade from your T9 Libram.

    On the other hand, the sooner you get 2 pieces (and eventually 4 pieces) the better. Set effects on our T10 is Godly. It's a must!

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    Re: Ret: Libram or T10?

    imo go for T10/cloak/whatever else first, it's only a 20 str upgrade

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    Re: Ret: Libram or T10?

    The libram is something you'll want to pick up late.

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    Re: Ret: Libram or T10?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dillbag
    imo go for T10/cloak/whatever else first, it's only a 20 str upgrade
    That cloak is terrible.

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    Re: Ret: Libram or T10?

    Valiance = 200 str

    New = 220 wich isnt a big gap

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    Re: Ret: Libram or T10?

    The buff could easily fall off on Lord Marrowgar WW phase. on Lady Deathwhisper you are useing command half the time unless your guild lets you tunnelvision her. Gunship Battle you are useing command the entire time, so useless. Deathbringer Saurfang it would be an upgrade, but not as much as 2/4pc will be. So get tier first.
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    Re: Ret: Libram or T10?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nikoll
    The buff could easily fall off on Lord Marrowgar WW phase. on Lady Deathwhisper you are useing command half the time unless your guild lets you tunnelvision her. Gunship Battle you are useing command the entire time, so useless. Deathbringer Saurfang it would be an upgrade, but not as much as 2/4pc will be. So get tier first.
    funny thing on marrowgar. his hitbox is insanely huge when he does WW. i could hit him with white attacks from a long distance. so if you do it right. it doesnt have to fall off.

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    Re: Ret: Libram or T10?

    Quote Originally Posted by iktankniet
    funny thing on marrowgar. his hitbox is insanely huge when he does WW. i could hit him with white attacks from a long distance. so if you do it right. it doesnt have to fall off.
    very true, but for your average player in the average guild despite the fact that the WW hits like a noodle they should probaly just work on not getting hit or standing in fire.
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    Re: Ret: Libram or T10?

    lol man, that libram sux so badly, its just a 20 str upgrade + u get it slower, go for tier the 2set bonus si the best thing ever, ill go for libram like last...

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    Re: Ret: Libram or T10?

    For a PVP pov the libram is very good, but you will get the str bonus with your other seals. So its a valid purchase with your badges.

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    Re: Ret: Libram or T10?

    it should be last as others have said. Ive found it to be an 11 dps increase, and thats only after about 3-4 mins

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    Re: Ret: Libram or T10?

    Quote Originally Posted by Adamson
    That cloak is terrible.
    and look terrible too..
    green crap.. always the physical dps with the worst looking one..

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