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    Blood DK..gemming STRENGTH or ArP

    Well guys, i have been testing out gems and i am completely stumped. Anyone with some expierience wanna help me out a little to maximize my character to help get full dps with better gemming.
    I also currently have the THunderous rampage with i could use as well for Arp.

    http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...&n=Conr%C3%B4y

    Thanks for listening and i hope i get some good feedback .

  2. #2

    Re: Blood DK..gemming STRENGTH or ArP

    Stack str, ARP just get from your armor bonuses.

  3. #3

    Re: Blood DK..gemming STRENGTH or ArP

    so you think stacking STRENGTH will also help me keep a more consistent dps as well?

  4. #4

    Re: Blood DK..gemming STRENGTH or ArP

    You've got the right meta and a tear, so that's good.

    STR everywhere will give you higher overall dps for blood, but its not going to make a 'omgwtfhuge' difference for you. Rawr shows you at like 140 more dps if you switch all gems out for str.

  5. #5

    Re: Blood DK..gemming STRENGTH or ArP

    Str > ArP

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    Re: Blood DK..gemming STRENGTH or ArP

    You have good gear so it's not like you will be replacing it rapidly, so to pieces you will be hanging onto for awhile I would certainly recommend getting STR gems in, stacking STR is the way to go for blood always.

  7. #7

    Re: Blood DK..gemming STRENGTH or ArP

    Your gear is not good enough to gem ArP yet, gem for pure STR as others have suggested.
    http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Stormrage&n=Tristita
    Arena Master Tristita

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    Re: Blood DK..gemming STRENGTH or ArP

    As I understand it.

    Get an ArP trinket proc. There is a good one in the new heroic. Should give about 700 ArP with a 30%ish uptime.

    Now to decide if you should gem ArP. If your ArP is over 400, gem ArP till you get to 700ArP. If you have less than 400ArP then gem STR. ArP cap is 1400 for raids so don't gem over 700.

    ArP scales much better at high levels than low levels, I could write a dissertation on why but if you are really interested go read EJ or something.

    Hope this helps.

    *Ack crap, I think I just quoted you the feral numbers and you get 10% ArP from talents. Your numbers will be lower than, sorry haven't played my DK in a long time.
    This bro told a cool story on 2009-12-03 and proudly took part in the banfest.

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    Re: Blood DK..gemming STRENGTH or ArP

    Although ArP became a lot more useful for all three specs with 3.3 due to SS having a physical portion, Str still outweighs it. Simply because Str affects all of your spells, while ArP only buffs a few select spells. ArP is a wonderful stat, especially for Blood, but even as Blood a higher str pool will yield more dps. Don't ever gem ArP, take it where you can get it, but never gem it.

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    Re: Blood DK..gemming STRENGTH or ArP

    yep ty ty for all ur inputs.....My rotation is PS IT DS HS HS EMPOWER CDss RUNEWeap and then DS HS HS HS HS ..u guys see anything wrong? i try to keep up diseases and what not and i DS to get 4 death runes then i HS HS HS HS as much as i can

    i have thunderous helm with arp and i have 258 fros hero chest..should i use those for blood and break my 4 piece?

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    Re: Blood DK..gemming STRENGTH or ArP

    and not having 40 percent ARP is bad aint it?

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    Re: Blood DK..gemming STRENGTH or ArP

    Armor pen is great for blood but I definitely wouldn't recommend gemming for it. With proper gear you can get pretty close to the hard cap with a trinket without gemming with current gear. Even higher with BiS ICC gear.

    Armor pen doesn't help as much as str for aoe situations, even with HS.
    It doesn't effect diseases at all.
    It doesn't effect death coil at all.

    You can gem armor pen, but 9/10 times you'll be better off gemming str.

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