Awkward dps spec

[Wolverine12]

I was looking around with blood dps specs and i was thinking since it is a hard hitting spec i thought this might be something to look at


http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?deat...u,aSH3Oe,10958


what this will do is give u a great crit chance also you would use Obliterate not death strike and with the crit and str mix u can hit like a truck on steroids this might be more pvp idk but let me know what u think

[Sarcasm]

I don't see how the 13 points in frost helps you in any way.

[Cilraaz]

1. You are spec'ing for Obliterate, yet take the Imp Death Strike talent?
2. You spend 10 points making Obliterate possibly hit more than Death Strike instead of spending those talents on something more worthwhile, like Epidemic, Morbidity, and Necrosis.
3. No.

[Athael]

1. You don't deal any frost damage as blood spec, and you deal very little shadow damage (only death coil, I believe). 5 points wasted on Black Ice.

2. You sacrifice Blood-Caked Blade (essentially a chance to proc an extra strike) for 3% more crit on your special abilities?

3. You want to use Obliterate instead of Death Strike, and yet you still specced into Improved Death Strike and other DS-buffing talents.

I'm sorry, I don't mean to offend you, but this talent build is simply bad. The talent choices are confused, they make no sense, and it will hit a lot less hard than the cookie cutter specs (Which, annoying as it is to have everyone spec the same way, are cookie-cutter for a reason. That reason is that they are the best possible).

[Wolverine12]

i was just seeing what u thought im just tired of same of stuff

[Shiira]

i was just seeing what u thought im just tired of same of stuff

Cookie cutter builds exist for a reason, it's because they perform well.

When people try to come up with different and interesting specs they just end up being bad most of the time.

[Nightfiire]

If you'd like a different spec that is still competitive try out this one.http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#jfVMV...Ixfd00z:GbpMVm

I'd recommend swapping out on a Pale Horse for Impurity but I liked the functionality and removing the one point in IMP blood pres and putting it into Might of Mograine

[Athael]

i was just seeing what u thought im just tired of same of stuff

I understand where you're coming from. It is entirely possible, though tricky, to come up with a spec that's different from the norm that you can do well with.

But you need to thoroughly understand your class first. You need to understand stat weights, design methodology and implementation, et cetera. The talent build you showed us implies that you still need improvement in this area, as there was no clear-cut intention evident in the talent choices. Again, why spec for DS if you want to use Oblit? Stuff like that.

@ Nightfiire -

I hesitate to say that build you linked will do more DPS. The ghoul generally does around 400-700 DPS on his own. Maybe at lower gear levels that will be better, but in order to get him you are sacrificing 10% raw damage increase, 10% armor penetration (and blood is predominantly reliant on physical damage, so that's an important stat), and Dancing Rune Weapon, which is a powerful damage increase on-cooldown. I haven't done the math so I cannot say for certain, but it strikes me as unlikely that unglyphed UB+permanent ghoul outweighs what you'd be losing.

Then again, you said competitive, you didn't say Better Than. It is possible it does similar enough damage to mainstream Blood to be viable, and in that case, have fun. It's a game, do what you enjoy.

[General Vezax]

Not that this concept is any good, but http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?deat...I,aSH3Oe,10958 Is better for what you're trying to do.

[Apocalypseqq]

http://www.wowpopular.com/Death+Knight/Talents

for the best specs