Sp/Haste, 4p t10, and IA help

[crazyman]

My guild has recently asked me to start bringing my mage to 25mans because atm we have 4 tanks in the guild and the 2 that have had to use their dps specs aren't up to par.
This said I have done very little raiding with this toon due to the fact he has been one of 4 alts.

My questions are simple and not looking for a bunch of noob calling just answers would be highly apreciated.

1.) atm I find myself gemming all 12sp/10haste, except 2x 12sp/10 spirit gems, will put a link to my armory right under this to help people answer my question. Basically I am just curious whether or not the loss in SP is made up for the haste in the end. I have the haste staff off of 10 fester but not sure if the 100sp loss is worth the 1xx haste and putting my self 130+ over hit cap.

2.) The nerf to incanters has me wondering where is the best place to put those lost points @?

3.) atm im torn between using 4p or not using 4p is it worth the loss of stats with my current gear to go ahead and use 4p? is so should i go with gloves/ w/o legs or with legs/ w/o gloves?

Thank you guys for the help apreciate all constructive comments.

Heres my armory:
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...us&cn=Arcafist

[nerfproof]

To answer your 3 questions...
1) yes gem for 12sp-10haste. The extra haste pays off in the end since arcane is all about getting as many missle barrage procs as possible. so having a fast cast time of arcane blast pays off in the end.

2) I personally moved the 2 points I had in IA and put them into MA. Magic Absorption is nice to help with mana and lets you dps longer.

3) The 4piece T10 is great man. The 18% dmg buff when ur MI are out is leet especially if used during ur burn phase with lust up.

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?mage...P,q3J-OH,11723

[romeolock]

people like you make me mad. You basically get hand held on one your alts. Your probably somewhere around 6k gs and u want to ask questions about your gear you have no idea really about? But sure ill play your game. First off get rid of the staff as i see you have access to much better being as you can down lk in 25 man and at least some heroic modes. Also generally the best bet is to go with legs for off piece but since you already the the heroic hands i would stick there. also my understanding is 23 sp in slots that are pure red, but you wont kill yourself either way. Also you say your way over hit i just dont see it. Unless your talking about a different staff. also your ring with mp5 sucks

[crazyman]

I apreciate both of your inputs looks like ill be using 4p t10 w/o gloves its sort of a mix 2 posters one saying my gems r fine other saying 23sp in red so ill see a few more opinions there if anyone has any it would be apreciated. As far as MA goes in place of IA what about 2/3 prismatic cloak since I've noticed I'm having to invis to drop threat more and more as my gear increases so was thinking that time would give me 2 more seconds of dps in between my aggro dumps and my dpsing.

and as far as being carried ehh lol, I pug 10/25 icc on all my alts every week since its not hard and have only cleared to putricide in 25 on my mage since i have a max time in pug raids of 2 hours b4 I call them, I just had one of my guildies hop in and convert the raid to heroic for when we did GSB since even in a pug its still insanely easy. And in addition to that only times im not #1 on the meter is when its crump(rogue) or exexx (6.3k GS hunter) right there in front of me.

[Valanna]

Please, if you ever revisit these forums (with all due respect to foreigners, I am one), post with proper punctuation and grammar, it really makes it easier reading it.

1.

Gem 12sp/10haste in all your yellow sockets.
Gem 23sp in all your red sockets and blue sockets with a bonus worse than or equal to 5sp.
Gem 12sp/spirit in all blue sockets with a socket bonus better than or equal to 7sp.

Note that these numbers are with your current gear. You will get to a point where you benefit from gemming 12sp/10 haste in red sockets aswell.

2.

Evidently you are in a heroic ICC guild, which, from what I heard includes a ton of push-back effects. I will personally use a spec like this for heroic ICC.
http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?mage...Z,q3J-OH,11723
You will get the rest of the push-back reduction from a paladin. Magic Absorption is really good for most ICC bosses, and with decent RNG, gives back a small amount of mana. Your tanks should be good enough for only having 1/2 in Arcane Subtlety.

3.

The 4-piece set bonus is great. BiS include gloves with leggings with hit rating from Festergut. However it is marginally better than what your set up would be now with the gloves you currently wear. I'm guessing with your guild you'll be decked out in sanctified within a short time and the stat loss won't be anything worth discussing.

[crazyman]

Hmm, so you agree with the 23sp in red sockets but also 12sp/10spirit in blue with 7+ spell power bonus. Ill atleast do 23sp in red slots only using 12sp/10haste gems in yellow slots, but I have heard alot against using anymore then the 2x 12sp/10spirit gems then needed. And as far as what your'e assuming about me getting geared fast chances are ill upgrade 2-3 pieces but as soon as we get a replacement mage I will be going back to my paladin so will not get the gear to the point I can not worry bout stat loss, this is really just a quick fix for a month or so and I do not want to take BIS upgrades from our steady caster dps that wont be switching back to thier paladin in a month.

[ezmage]

1. when you can maintain 1.1-1.2k haste without sp/haste gems you should switch back to pure sp gems in red sockets but else you should countinue with sp/haste gems

2. Student of the mind, prismatic cloak, magic absorption and slow(for raid utility) is the best options in my pov to change it into.

3. the 4pt is fantastic since it works very nice with using following cd rotation: images/ap/iv/trinket -- ap -- images/ap/iv/trinket with ofc change acording to bl

[crazyman]

thx for all the help guys, I think i'm going to keep my gems as is and i have sanc t10 legs and 251 t10 chest so ill swap them out, 2pts into MA inplace of IA.

One last question b4 servers pop back up:

Is the festergut 10man staff worth in place of nibelung?

[Skarrd]

Your gems make me sad. Not matching hardly any of your socket bonuses is retarded. Use Rawr or you're hindering your guild.

[Siddarta]

Your gems make me sad. Not matching hardly any of your socket bonuses is retarded. Use Rawr or you're hindering your guild.

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