22agi or 23haste on cloak. what's best?
22agi or 23haste on cloak. what's best?
Depends on your gear level. If you're decently far into icc, meaning you've got your 2 or 4 piece set bonus, I'd vote haste over agi.Originally Posted by Whurring
It really depends though, what class you play (aka how important haste is) and how much haste you have from gear etc..
Cause for lets say a fury warrior the Agi is kinda superior to the haste one untill you have like imba amounts of crit. Cause most if not all BiS plate doesnt contain Haste, this 23 haste has not much meaning, while the agi makes you crit more and even gives (very very) little AP.
First, a guy posting in Paladin forums is most likely a Paladin.Originally Posted by milcky
Then, 23 haste is 23 haste. Wether you have 50 or 900.
Finally, Agi give no AP to warriors.
As to the OP, Scorpid's answer is correct. In order to know, I recommend you use Rawr, input yor gear setup (don't forget talents and buffs) and try both.
Originally Posted by Dark
As a general rule once you get 4pc go haste unless you are an enginer, than go 23 agi.
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agi=armorOriginally Posted by Asgard
armor=ap
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Like what 1 AP per 18agi or so ?Originally Posted by smartAXE
Originally Posted by Dark
As a general rule, as Nikoll said, run 22 agility until you get your 2pc T10 and grab 23 haste (since the extra haste means more DS procs).
Also as Nikoll said, use 23 agility if you are an engineer, because per point agility is sightly ahead of haste.
Plus Id never give up my parachute. XDOriginally Posted by Ronark
[qoute]Then, 23 haste is 23 haste. Wether you have 50 or 900.[/quote]Wrong. If you have 50 haste, enchanting 23 haste will have a larger effect than enchanting it when you already have 900.
no wrong again haste increases by the same amount all the way but what most people dont realise is that it doesnt directly make your attak timer shorter what it does is increase the amount of attaks you do over time since my knowledge of the english language is a bit lacking to explain this properly i will link the explanation on wowwiki.Originally Posted by Revved
http://www.wowwiki.com/Haste scroll down to the 1.12 info the short version is that a certain number of haste will always give the same increase in attaks over a certain period of time.
so the guy you quoted was right.
If there is anything to remember on mmochamp it is to trust ronark cause he knows wtf he is talking about!
Also something that was not mentioned agility will = better aoe dps then the haste until you have the 2 piece t10 but the haste = better single target dps. In the end though the difference is not much only a couple of points & if you do any pvp the agility is always a better bet cause it will help your crit rating which we suffer a big loss on due to enemy resilience.
The way balancing for WOW PVP works is allot like American politics.
1: Be lazy & ignore problems till the yelling is so loud your cant concentrate.
2: Refuse to do the things you have Said need to be done, then make up reasons why they cannot be done.
3: Lay the blame for problems on someone else even when it's your fault because you did all of the above.
Your still wrong though mate no matter how little AP it is, so stfu nextimeOriginally Posted by Asgard
I don't think paladins have a talents that converts armor into AP or Str like warrior's and dk's do.
More like 90 Agi/AP, still pretty negligible but that's not why Warriors prefer the Agi enchant to the Haste one.Originally Posted by Asgard
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At 3 AP per 108 armor wouldn't the conversion rate be:Originally Posted by Dedweight
108 armor per 11 agi
11/3 = 3.66
1 AP per 3.66 agi for warriors?
This is without considering raid buffs. Paladins generally have better stat conversion then other plate classes for agi.
I've noticed quite a trend lately here..Originally Posted by milcky
Why do people believe that agi gives AP to palas and warriors? (Minus the fact of the Armor=AP talent for warriors, but even then, it's so negligible that it's not even worth stacking it..)
Even to Hunters,rogues,shammys, it gives you roughly 1 AP per 1 Agi.. so, even in that sense, it's not (very,very) little ap.
I guess I've really just seen alot of palas in /2 talking about how you get 1 ap per agi.. and makes me /facepalm
idk.. my entire post here was kinda redundant after looking back at other posts.
Prot Pally:Avido-http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...radin&cn=Avido
MM Hunter:Avida-http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...radin&cn=Avida
Resto Shaman:Prymoria-http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...in&cn=Prymoria
Originally Posted by Caradinist