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    Enh Shaman vs Warrior? DPS

    Hello,

    My question is: how at the end looks dps done by shaman and warrior ? Which one can do better dps in raids/dungeons?


    PS. which class is better in dps: hunter or mage or dk . I mean fully gemmed and at the best itemization.

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    Quote Originally Posted by klaps_05 View Post
    after cata hits all classes will be the same so just pick the one you like
    That worked out really well in Wrath didn't it?

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    Weird "double" post in the middle of everything.
    Last edited by Nudi; 2010-07-14 at 03:47 PM.

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    If you want to know which class will do the most DPS a year from now, you're better off asking a magic 8 ball or seeing a psychic than you are asking people on a wow message board.

    That said, it's safe to assume that mages, hunters, rogues, and warlocks will do high damage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by klaps_05 View Post
    after cata hits all classes will be the same so just pick the one you like
    Hasn't that been the goal for the last 5 years? Mind you, I don't read a whole lot about cataclysm, but a complete balance seems rather hard to achieve.

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    So your question is about shaman, warrior, hunter, mage, and DK?

    Waaaiiit...

    Why don't you just roll something you enjoy rather then being *the top dps*
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    after cata hits all classes will be the same so just pick the one you like

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    Anyone who knows what they're doing can be competitive on the meters. Currently, as enhance, I beat my guild's fury warrior on a non-movement, single target fight like saurfang, he beats me on fights with movement and a fair number of multiple targets.

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    http://www.worldoflogs.com/rankings/...n_Citadel/dps/

    Theres an enh shaman that ranked on 10H Deathwhisper.

    In general fury warriors and fire mages are the best dps classes for the majority of fights, at least judging by WoL and WMO.

    Keep in mind that other classes provide the raid buffs and utility that enable them to do so much damage.

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    after cata hits just roll a tank they are kinda making healers and dpsers think ... while not mentioning anything about tanks other than a passive block for pala/warrior.
    so want to fall asleep while noone notices your gone ROLL TANK its fun its boring you dont even have to think ..
    (make that into a commercial with a high screaming voice and well you got rid of dps being the fun class where peoples enjoy high numbers)

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    Quote Originally Posted by theburned View Post
    after cata hits just roll a tank they are kinda making healers and dpsers think ... while not mentioning anything about tanks other than a passive block for pala/warrior.
    so want to fall asleep while noone notices your gone ROLL TANK its fun its boring you dont even have to think ..
    (make that into a commercial with a high screaming voice and well you got rid of dps being the fun class where peoples enjoy high numbers)
    Actually, they said that they'd let threat decay over time to not make tanks get ahead with TPS and then fall asleep watching Back to the Future

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baabinator View Post
    Why don't you just roll something you enjoy rather then being *the top dps*
    Some people enjoy just that, top dps, kinda like ppl playing arena resto druids, they just love to be unkillable but otherwise useless in anyother aspect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theburned View Post
    so want to fall asleep while noone notices your gone ROLL TANK its fun its boring you dont even have to think ..
    Not in Cata, you should learn to read Blue posts before posting.

    Why don't you just roll something you enjoy rather then being *the top dps*
    Because some players do care about performance and performing always better with a class they are used to. Casuals say "I enjoy this class and /care about being first"
    Real tanks don't use that foo foo magic stuff...we use steel and harsh language.

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    Fury warrior is almost intolerably boring these days. Make a frost dk, soooo much fun. Or make a prot warrior, equally as much fun if not moreso. Fury is awful and tedious. Arms is pretty fun though.

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    The most objective data you'll find on this topic: Dates back to May 6th, so not fully applicable today.

    http://www.wow.com/2010/05/06/icc-dps-analysis-by-spec/






    Anyway, the stated goal for Cataclysm is that all DPS speccs do roughly the same amount of damage, each with its own situational perks. "Pure" DPS classes are supposed to have slightly more situational advantages compared to hybrids, resulting in an average 5% more DPS overall.
    Last edited by mmoc433ceb40ad; 2010-07-17 at 12:57 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crowe View Post
    The most objective data you'll find on this topic: Dates back to May 6th, so not fully applicable today.

    http://www.wow.com/2010/05/06/icc-dps-analysis-by-spec/






    Anyway, the stated goal for Cataclysm is that all DPS speccs do roughly the same amount of damage, each with its own situational perks. "Pure" DPS classes are supposed to have slightly more situational advantages compared to hybrids, resulting in an average 5% more DPS overall.
    why would you ever trust anything wow.com says? that whole site is full of mouth breathers.
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    Something like http://worldoflogs.com/rankings/play...25H/Fire_Mage/ is better. You can change the fight and the classes at the top. Fire mages seem to be highest but don't think "ZOMG IM A FIRE MAGE I CAN HAS BEST DPS?". Thats not how it works.

    tbh, play the class you like and you enjoy. If you are good, you can compete with any class at average levels of raiding. Plus, meters are not everything. Not even close.

    Also: Fights are very situational and simply good RNG can be the difference sometimes.

    as for warrior vs. enh shaman, http://worldoflogs.com/rankings/play...n_Citadel/dps/ shows warriors quite often, and never enh shamans, so... I guess theres your answer?
    Last edited by lilsaint; 2010-07-18 at 06:25 AM.

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    Normal modes are def not the best representation of top dps.

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    I blow the dps of most of the warriors on my server out of the water on almost every single fight on my enhance shaman, so clearly Enhance > Warriors

    what? World of Logs shows that warriors who are likely have every item on their BiS table, are probably in some of the best guilds in the world, and are probably more concerned about dps than other things always outdps Enhance shamans?

    But I always outdps Warriors, so ~clearly~ WoL is wrong!


    Being serious, just play the class/spec you enjoy more. If you are playing a class you actually enjoy, know your shit, and put some real effort into it, you could potentially outdps anyone. I do it every week on my Enhance in my guild's 2nd ICC run, and I'm one of the most aware and attentive person in that group to what's going on in the process.

    EDIT: grammar and rewording
    Last edited by Littlenino; 2010-07-18 at 06:54 AM.

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