2 question for DK people

[Crush]

Hey guy's i got 2 simple question, tho i am a DK myself.

I am going to FC to horde and i was wondering What race is the best.

Troll (Best race in game)
vs.
Orc
vs.
Tauren

This is racial vise, Tank and dps in cata

Also, the best profession for tank and dps

I heard that Engineering was good for melee atm but i am not 100% sure

All help thanked.

[asirum]

Orc > Troll > Tauren, racial vise.

Professions you'll be better of with JC + BS/Enchanting/Scribe/Alch (If you use flasks).

[Deleted]

I think there will be minor changes on racials in Cataclysm and for the racials: If engineering will be good as it was in WotLK, you want to go with Engineering/JC combo. JC provides same benefit as BS, enchanting, inscription or alchemy, but let's you choose the stats you wish to buff. BS is just as powerful as JC, but JC has more market value.

[halmotors]

At the moment, orc is the least useless of the Horde races for being a DK, from a racial standpoint. Goblins will end up being a better choice once they become available.

Of course, racials are never gamebreakers, so unless you want to min/max to the last 1%, pick whichever race appeals to you more.

[Sulika]

At the moment, orc is the least useless of the Horde races for being a DK, from a racial standpoint. Goblins will end up being a better choice once they become available.

Of course, racials are never gamebreakers, so unless you want to min/max to the last 1%, pick whichever race appeals to you more.

If you play Unholy DK Orc provides a huge amount of dps in PvE. With pets now doing 20-30% of your dps the 5% extra pet damage racial alone is worth 1% to 1.5% increased damage, add 3 expertise with axes and the attack power racial on top of that and no other race in the game comes close for straight DPS increase. An Unholy Orc DK probably will be doing 2-3% more DPS than any other racial.

[halmotors]

If you play Unholy DK Orc provides a huge amount of dps in PvE. With pets now doing 20-30% of your dps the 5% extra pet damage racial alone is worth 1% to 1.5% increased damage, add 3 expertise with axes and the attack power racial on top of that and no other race in the game comes close for straight DPS increase. An Unholy Orc DK probably will be doing 2-3% more DPS than any other racial.

Hence 'if you want to min/max go orc, otherwise pick whatever appeals to you more'.

[asirum]

I think there will be minor changes on racials in Cataclysm and for the racials: If engineering will be good as it was in WotLK, you want to go with Engineering/JC combo. JC provides same benefit as BS, enchanting, inscription or alchemy, but let's you choose the stats you wish to buff. BS is just as powerful as JC, but JC has more market value.

Tbh, JC is slightly better then Alch/Scribe/BS/Enchanting ATM, alteast from a Frost 2H point of view.
Our strongest stat is currently haste, followed by mastery, followed by str, so It would be to your advantage to choose JC.

The str gain from BS/Enchant/Aclh/Scrib is currently 80 Str. With JC the current str gain is 81 (Huuuge difference).
Anyway, seeing as you can choose master/haste and so on, I find JC better, even though it's not by alot.

[Deleted]

Goblin > Orc > Rest.

BS + JC (If you're Tank Mining is just as viable) > Rest.

Racial changes alter nothing, only the introduction of Goblins changes anything. Even if you're Unholy, the 1% Attack and Casting Speed Increase from the Goblin Racial is way better, Consider calculated it out on EJ.

[akaTheDude]

Troll (Best race in game)

Ok after reading this you should make a Troll ( since you like them) People get too caught up in the racials , but if you dont like the way your toon looks....u will never be happy

[Weerra]

Minor detal nitpick: BS has the same "choose what stat you want buffed", so BS+JC has the best flexibility of all professions.

[Arjana]

Orc for dps, Tauren for tanking, Troll if you want to look awesome.

Best professions are Engineering and JC.

[Deleted]

Tauren's Health boost is tiny, Orc's one at least provides a semi-decent Threat CD.

Engi is a good profession, not best.

[Deleted]

Orc for dps, Tauren for tanking, Troll if you want to look awesome.

Best professions are Engineering and JC.

This exactly, although i think Orc looks better for a plate-wearer

[syonxwf]

Belf gives you 2% spell miss, and an AoE interrupt.
Tauren gives you a wee bit more health, and an AoE stun.
Orc gives you (effectively) an attack power trinket, and an expertise bonus with axes.
Trolls give you a haste trinket, reduced snare duration and bonus damage to beast-type mobs.
Undead gives you a get-out-of-jail free card every now and then from fears.

Of all the racial bonuses, I'd think the Tauren Warstomp would come in the most useful for raiding and PvE, as well as coming in pretty handy for PvP. For threat specifically, I'd go with an Orc, though that is specifically if you are willing to stick with axes for the expertise increase.

As for professions, Jewelcrafting is always going to be a good option for tanks for the increased stamina. As for a second profession, you really have quite a few options. You can go mining for the increase to stamina, you can go Blacksmithing for the extra socket (more stamina or w/e other gem), or you can go Enchanting for the ring buffs.

[Deleted]

Errr.... 2 second stun 2 minute CD. Yeah, really helpful.

[niteline]

ORC for sure due to Axe Expertise
Proffessions i would go with JC & Ench/BS/Engi
Engi gives Haste/Rocketboots/Bombs and some other cool stuff
BS gives base stats scaling in Cata (if im right we get 2 more items to socket if the Wrist/gloves are still socketable)
Personally i use Ench/Engi on my main cuz i had JC/BS on my old main (pala tank)

[Alanar]

Errr.... 2 second stun 2 minute CD. Yeah, really helpful.

it gives abit runic power aswell..

[Roose]

One thing that I am noticing now that I went to DPS, after tanking my way to 80, is how much I really miss charge. I played a warrior for the majority of my WoW days, recentlty bear, and never really appreciated how awesome charge really is. I must have one.

I plan on having 2 gap closers come Cata. I am leveling engineering and swapping to goblin. Rocket hop and rocket boots baby! Now hearing the good news about class changes on release made this the obvious route for my DK. I only wish goblins shared the engineering racial w/ gnomes b/c that makes leveling the profession a walk in the park. I mean comon, engineering w/o goblins is just mech-a-pet crafting.

[Smokeyranger]

Okay, I will admit to not reading EVERYONE'S post, so if I repeat something, bleh. As a current Frost DK (since what I did read was mainly for Unholy), I would recommend Orcs, though Trolls might have situational advantages for Frost. Taurens are an obvious best for tanking, and Trolls for pvp. semi-offtopic with my own question: Does the orc racial apply to the ghoul if it isn't the perma-pet? it's still an awesome cooldown to pop, just wanted to know if it was affected.

Oh, and JC/BS like a bunch of other people said, maybe exchange BS for Engi. Roose makes a good point from the tank side for Engineering for the rocket boots, and the prof has other perks as well.

[JabJack]

Tauren for tanking and dps, +5% base health most STR and for profs alch( mixology ) and JC