Because science hates hope... obesity proven incurable.

[Laize]

http://www.cracked.com/quick-fixes/f...ng-to-science/

Yes it's on a comedy site, but the sources are valid and the conclusion real.

Now I'm sad.

[Spectral]

So please remember this the next time the subject comes up at the office or on some message board and you get bombarded by thin 20-year-olds insisting the obese need to just "cut out the junk food" or "take care of themselves" or "do some exercise." The body physically won't allow that for a formerly fat person.

Bullshit. That people who make the choices that result in being fat aren't able to change those habits consistently for extended periods of time with any sort of consistency does not imply that that it's physically impossible.

Even if the general premise is true, it doesn't refute the obvious reality that people who are fat in the first place are fat because of their own choices.

Completely anecdotal, but I find the premise shoddy in the first place. My father shed about 60 pounds something like 10 years ago and keeps it off effectively. Granted, he could relapse, but it seems unlikely. He does complain that it's quite difficult because of the effects described, but that doesn't mean it's impossible. I find the claims in the article regarding frequency implausible, and the contradictory nature of obesity literature makes cherrypicking quite easy.

[Daumaenis]

Science is a process, it cannot hate.

[Tyriss]

Don't blame science =.=

Science doesn't hate hope.. to me science is what gives me hope in humanity. I would say i have faith in humanity howeve i believe humans are destined to fail miserably and destroy themselves.

Science favors truth.

[Laize]

Bullshit. That people who make the choices that result in being fat aren't able to change those habits consistently for extended periods of time with any sort of consistency does not imply that that it's physically impossible.

Even if the general premise is true, it doesn't refute the obvious reality that people who are fat in the first place are fat because of their own choices.

As someone who's struggled with his weight for at least 15 years now, I can tell you it's really tough. I've quit smoking (formerly a pack a day) and it was nowhere near as difficult as keeping weight off.

Statistically it's easier to quit heroin than keep weight off.

I can't help but feel as though there should be a prescription appetite suppressant to help people lose weight and keep it off.

---------- Post added 2012-07-06 at 04:07 AM ----------

Don't blame science =.=

Science doesn't hate hope.. to me science is what gives me hope in humanity. I would say i have faith in humanity howeve i believe humans are destined to fail miserably and destroy themselves.

Science favors truth.

The whole "hates hope" thing was a facetious comment.

[Spectral]

I can't help but feel as though there should be a prescription appetite suppressant to help people lose weight and keep it off.

Whabam!!!!

[Boogums]

Bullshit. That people who make the choices that result in being fat aren't able to change those habits consistently for extended periods of time with any sort of consistency does not imply that that it's physically impossible.

Even if the general premise is true, it doesn't refute the obvious reality that people who are fat in the first place are fat because of their own choices.

Completely anecdotal, but I find the premise shoddy in the first place. My father shed about 60 pounds something like 10 years ago and keeps it off effectively. Granted, he could relapse, but it seems unlikely. He does complain that it's quite difficult because of the effects described, but that doesn't mean it's impossible. I find the claims in the article regarding frequency implausible, and the contradictory nature of obesity literature makes cherrypicking quite easy.

Read the damn article. He doesn't say it's physically impossible, he says that statistics show the success rate rounds to 0. He mentions people like your father who are the exception, just like the people who can survive a 50 story fall. It's not that it's "impossible" it's that "you're probably going to die."

[Tuffguss]

Stupidest thing I've ever read. Think of humanity as a species before we reached modern times. Preposterous that anyone could think obesity was the norm for humans running around 2000 years ago or even 500 years ago. Unhealthy individuals die out due to natural selection, unfortunately something humans have had beaten for quite a while.

Take quick look at what is left of isolated populations of humans such as tribes in south america etc. Are they all obese? No. So there is no reason anyone else should be either.

[Deleted]

As someone who's struggled with his weight for at least 15 years now, I can tell you it's really tough. I've quit smoking (formerly a pack a day) and it was nowhere near as difficult as keeping weight off.

Statistically it's easier to quit heroin than keep weight off.

I can't help but feel as though there should be a prescription appetite suppressant to help people lose weight and keep it off.

---------- Post added 2012-07-06 at 04:07 AM ----------



The whole "hates hope" thing was a facetious comment.

There are appetite suppressants. Ecstasy was developed as one, and found effective, but not put on the market by the inventors because of its side effects

[Boogums]

As someone who's struggled with his weight for at least 15 years now, I can tell you it's really tough. I've quit smoking (formerly a pack a day) and it was nowhere near as difficult as keeping weight off.

Statistically it's easier to quit heroin than keep weight off.

I can't help but feel as though there should be a prescription appetite suppressant to help people lose weight and keep it off.

Heroin is also highly illegal and doesn't serve a biological purpose, being over weight isn't and does.

[Agoonga]

http://www.cracked.com/quick-fixes/f...ng-to-science/

Yes it's on a comedy site, but the sources are valid and the conclusion real.

Now I'm sad.

Science proves obesity is the cure!

[LolretKJ]

Diet and exercise, I'll cure your obesity right there. I dropped 100 pounds over the course of 8 months. Now I run 2 miles everyday and go to the gym 3 times a week. Am I still obese at 6'4 235 lbs?

[kivipää]

Even if the general premise is true, it doesn't refute the obvious reality that people who are fat in the first place are fat because of their own choices.

Just like a crack addict is an addict because of their own choice. Still doesn't make it easy to stop.
Granted, calling losing weight permanently physically impossible is going a bit overboard. If the statistics show that two permille of people manage to do it, it is possible. If it is possible, ANYONE can accomplish it if they try hard enough. They might just have to try very, very hard.
So I don't agree with teh artcile making it sound absolutely impossible, but you shouldn't act like it's easy either.

[Boogums]

Diet and exercise, I'll cure your obesity right there. I dropped 100 pounds over the course of 8 months. Now I run 2 miles everyday and go to the gym 3 times a week. Am I still obese at 6'4 235 lbs?

Come back to us in 5 - 10 years; and read the article. He doesn't say it's impossible to lose weight, he says it's impossible to keep the weight off.

[Deleted]

Stupidest thing I've ever read. Think of humanity as a species before we reached modern times. Preposterous that anyone could think obesity was the norm for humans running around 2000 years ago or even 500 years ago. Unhealthy individuals die out due to natural selection, unfortunately something humans have had beaten for quite a while.

Take quick look at what is left of isolated populations of humans such as tribes in south america etc. Are they all obese? No. So there is no reason anyone else should be either.

The predisposition towards obesity was likely an evolutionary selected trait. Putting on some fat in good times allows you to better survive times of famine.

[Boogums]

Just like a crack addict is an addict because of their own choice. Still doesn't make it easy to stop.
Granted, calling losing weight permanently physically impossible is going a bit overboard. If the statistics show that two permille of people manage to do it, it is possible. If it is possible, ANYONE can accomplish it if they try hard enough. They might just have to try very, very hard.
So I don't agree with teh artcile making it sound absolutely impossible, but you shouldn't act like it's easy either.

NO ONE SAYS IT'S PHYSlCALLY IMPOSSIBLE

[TEHPALLYTANK]

People choose what they eat. Use all the excuses you want, barring some rare genetic disorder it is in part always your fault that you are overweight.

[The Ogdru Jahad]

Science doesn't hate hope. It is simply being realistic, while I don't believe in what the article says to be true. Science is what gives me faith in humanity, that one day we'll be able to reverse all that we've done to this world and help others who are less fortunate.

[Laize]

Whabam!!!!

5% weight loss eh? That's... really discouraging. I need to lose 17% of my weight to be consider normal for my height. I suppose it's better than nothing.

[LolretKJ]

Come back to us in 5 - 10 years; and read the article. He doesn't say it's impossible to lose weight, he says it's impossible to keep the weight off.

Fair enough.