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    H malkorok - tight enrage.. Any tips?

    Any tips on squeezing max dps out of H malkorok?

    1) should I Bladestorm adds? Or single target boss

    2) anyone else finds the hit box of malk to be very small? I am unable to dps while soaking melee circle.

    3) is anything spell reflectable?

    4) I've been assigned to taunt on CD. Turning camera angle and losing that 1 GCD really distracts me. On N malkorok I did ~300k dps on boss without distraction. I'm doing about 280-310 now but alot of my damage comes from adds Bladestorm. Any advice?

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    http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/r...=12299&e=12616

    We haven't actually reached enrage but looking at our 5min + wipes... I am kind of concerned whether we can actually get past.

    We started on H malkorok only last night.. Going at it again tonight.. Hoping for a kill.

    Will our dps make it ? Any tips on maxing dps?

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    Quote Originally Posted by senturion View Post
    Any tips on squeezing max dps out of H malkorok?

    1) should I Bladestorm adds? Or single target boss

    2) anyone else finds the hit box of malk to be very small? I am unable to dps while soaking melee circle.

    3) is anything spell reflectable?

    4) I've been assigned to taunt on CD. Turning camera angle and losing that 1 GCD really distracts me. On N malkorok I did ~300k dps on boss without distraction. I'm doing about 280-310 now but alot of my damage comes from adds Bladestorm. Any advice?
    Also working on progression ourselves and very close to a kill, our issue is deaths sub 10% and not DPS though....

    1) Yes I feel BS is better the DR, the faster those adds go down the faster the entire raid focusses on the boss and also you to move and soak without being slowed.

    2) Hit box is not really an issue as there is no real need to be at distance as long as your tank moves the boss a little for the soaks.

    3) Don't think so.

    4) We have our Warriors taunt and DK backup grip. Seems to be working ok for us. You could use a mouse over macro or similar if that helps but I just target and taunt my assigned add.

    I think this was our best attempt without deaths until near the end...

    http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/r...?s=7569&e=7913

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    1) You might be hitting enrage because adds are too long at ranged. Try taunting the adds, cleave them via bladestorm if you have to.

    2) If Malkorok is at the very middle of the platform (he casts smash from there) you will be able to soak like 90% of the circles while DPS'ing the boss

    3) Don't know

    4) mouseover macro? /cast [@mouseover] Taunt, make sure you don't mouseover the boss

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    I think bladestorm is fine seeing you have no combat rogues. I also found it pretty convenient to not be snared.
    You might want to concentrate more to hit your bts. Only checked the try you linked but 35ish is really incredibly low.
    Regarding the taunting not sure if you already do but use a mouseover taunt makro and zoom out as far as possible. Taunt is off the gcd you don't lose as much unless for the times you have to move away from the boss because of taunt range issues which I know can be very annoying especially with an owl loving to hug the wall.
    Otherwise I wouldn't be as concerned with dps. Given the id we are in people usually are geared enough to beat the enrage as long as people don't fuck up and die to explosions or breath. Also your monk tank should have another huge damage phase coming up solo soaking the second bloodrage phase.

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    Quote Originally Posted by senturion View Post
    Any tips on squeezing max dps out of H malkorok?

    1) should I Bladestorm adds? Or single target boss

    2) anyone else finds the hit box of malk to be very small? I am unable to dps while soaking melee circle.

    3) is anything spell reflectable?

    4) I've been assigned to taunt on CD. Turning camera angle and losing that 1 GCD really distracts me. On N malkorok I did ~300k dps on boss without distraction. I'm doing about 280-310 now but alot of my damage comes from adds Bladestorm. Any advice?
    1) I would definitely recommend Bladestorm, atleast until the point where adds start dying quicker than your BS. Aside from that, single target boss.
    If you have more than one Warrior; make sure you stagger your bladestorms. Especially if you are in 10m, or run a very melee light comp, each warrior can handle a set of adds basically by themselves with BS.

    2) This isn't really a big issue, remember only one person needs to soak, so it shouldn't be your job to get every single one; what with off tanks and the like. If you do have to get one that is out of range, remember that you don't lose much damage outside of CS.

    3) No

    4) Taunt is fine, as others have said a mouseover macro, or even a quick click can handle this. I would try to do that during your CS though, timing is key.
    Also, Mocking Banner works on the adds (without taunting the boss), its range is rather small but can be useful. Make sure your other taunters are using theirs as well as tanks when they can.
    I would also note that it is imperative that you convince your ranged not to attack the adds. While getting them down faster seems like a good idea, it is real easy for them to maintain aggro and the adds to run away after a taunt or mass grip. Those adds slowing ranged can wipe the fight very quickly, and you should have more than enough damage in the melee group to handle them. My Ele Shamans love to scumbag them, and then constantly complain that adds are sitting on them.

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    yes, bladestorm worked much better for me, and you want to use storm bolt instead of bloodbath as the adds aren't up long enough.

    also, 5 heal it... second time we killed it we had a social just to fill a slot so we had a healer switch to dps to make sure we got the enrage and even with deaths we beat it by 20 seconds.

    also on that attempt you linked your enrage uptime isnt great, i understand it can be difficult keeping it up while aoeing (my fellow warrior had similar uptime) but if you get higher, 80%+, you'll notice a huge jump, this is a fight where your tanks should be right at the top and you should be right behind them. i had 17% higher enrage uptime than my fellow warrior but this netted me 47k more dps, and he had 1 more i-level than me then and hcwf mh and hc offhand, i only have hcwf mh

    http://worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-pl...?s=2330&e=2684
    Last edited by Damosapien; 2013-10-14 at 11:05 AM.

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    learn to play

    Infracted: Please only post constructive information to the topic. People come to the forums for helpful advice to learn to play better.
    Last edited by sjsctt; 2013-10-14 at 03:52 PM.

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    Thanks for the help guys.

    http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/r...=11461&e=11822



    And.. the taunt macro really... really helped.

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    I'd recommend keybinding as an excellent way to improve DPS.

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    Before I learnt about key binding. I had to: Turn Screen> Select mob> Click Taunt> Turn screen back> Select boss> Click bladestorm

    After I binded Bladestorm + Taunt. DPS went up 40K LOL. Gonna keep those two on bind from now on..

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    Now imagine what happens when you bind everything. :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by senturion View Post
    Before I learnt about key binding. I had to: Turn Screen> Select mob> Click Taunt> Turn screen back> Select boss> Click bladestorm

    After I binded Bladestorm + Taunt. DPS went up 40K LOL. Gonna keep those two on bind from now on..
    raiding heroic and just learned to key bind ? Dafuq ?
    People have been gkicked for less lol.

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    Oh it's you again. Have you cleared H TOT yet? I was referring to the macro for Taunt. It's not like I use taunt much as dps. So instead of coming here with your sarcastic remarks, perhaps you should clear normal mode first?

    I use the basic 1-9 keybinds and for the less used skills like taunt, banners and reck etc I click them. It has worked well for me so far and I keep competitive.

    And talking about gkick, looking at your 6 guilds in 4 months, I can understand why you are so butt hurt lol. Let me tell you your problem, you think too highly of yourself. I may not have the most efficient setup like keybinding everything but I contribute and progress with my guild T14-T15. Instead of a guild hopper like you. Or maye you the one getting gkicked lol?

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    Quote Originally Posted by santa666 View Post
    raiding heroic and just learned to key bind ? Dafuq ?
    People have been gkicked for less lol.
    Last edited by Senen; 2013-10-15 at 05:02 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by senturion View Post
    Oh it's you again. Have you cleared H TOT yet? I was referring to the macro for Taunt. It's not like I use taunt much as dps. So instead of coming here with your sarcastic remarks, perhaps you should clear normal mode first?

    I use the basic 1-9 keybinds and for the less used skills like taunt, banners and reck etc I click them. It has worked well for me so far and I keep competitive.

    And talking about gkick, looking at your 6 guilds in 4 months, I can understand why you are so butt hurt lol. Let me tell you your problem, you think too highly of yourself. I may not have the most efficient setup like keybinding everything but I contribute and progress with my guild T14-T15. Instead of a guild hopper like you. Or maye you the one getting gkicked lol?[/url]
    No need for snarcy remarks of other players.

    He dose lift a good point tho, you would be better off, if you bind all your abilitys, as that would lead to faster reaction times, and a higher flexability. It may take a short while to get used to it, but once you've used it for a few days, you should start feeling the difference that it makes. You can never react as fast while clicking, as when you have everything keybound.
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    Guys, personal attacks are going to start being infracted.

    Since this is how to improve on the fight, yes, you will pay a toll by not keybinding on this boss, since the mouse cannot be 2 places at once.

    On a different sub-topic, I am struggling some attempts since our other taunters want to tunnel, so I have to wait for taunt to come off CD, chase down an ad that is more than max melee, then taunt, run back in. I was having attempts varying wildly between 250k-350k depending on how scumbag the other plate were being.

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    I am on 10m so for me I stick to Dragon Roar and cleave off the boss lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by senturion View Post
    Oh it's you again. Have you cleared H TOT yet? I was referring to the macro for Taunt. It's not like I use taunt much as dps. So instead of coming here with your sarcastic remarks, perhaps you should clear normal mode first?

    I use the basic 1-9 keybinds and for the less used skills like taunt, banners and reck etc I click them. It has worked well for me so far and I keep competitive.
    Quote Originally Posted by senturion View Post
    After I binded Bladestorm + Taunt. DPS went up 40K LOL. Gonna keep those two on bind from now on..

    When you dont even keybind talents, such as bladestorm (lolwat) there's no amount of excuses or personal attacks that will make anyone think different of your skills.
    Assumption is the mother of all fuckups, i've never been replaced from any guild nor do i think to highly of myself. I've struggled to make the commitment irl wise, but im back now. Gimme a reset to catch up on farm and what excuses will you have then ? Just waiting for you to say keybinding doesn't make a difference.

    Infracted. Please try to stay on topic. Please keep constructive as well.
    Last edited by sjsctt; 2013-10-15 at 03:39 PM.

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    This topic was on H malkorok and I was asking for advice. I received some very good help on the mouse over macro as well as tips on what to use (ie Bladestorm vs Dr). This was helpful advice which improved my dps from 260-280 to >300 and finally the kill.

    I came back to thank those that shared the advice.

    You came into the thread.. Left some sarcastic remark which have 0 contribution.

    As I said, it is not that I don't bind my keys. I didn't bind taunt because how often do DPS warriors really need to taunt. I don't bind Bladestorm but that's just a personal habit. Now I've binded it.

    If people give genuine advice, I'm totally happy to receive it. I will even thank you. But Santa666 offtopic personal attack was really uncalled for.

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