Blizzard stated they will look at Worgen and Goblin for model updates.

[StrayFox]

I'm really elated that Blizzard is updating the models, in fact, this subject will probably mean nothing to me since I will be enjoying the new character models rather than thinking about this.

But, at hand, Blizzard stated that they will take a look at Worgen and Goblin models in the future... Blizzard, you MUST look at least at the worgen. Since they decided to change how they looked at the last moment because of whiners, they are completely broken and seem unfinished. I mean Goblin look waaaay better and are almost on par with how Pandaren are done. Worgen have the same cheesy gimicks used on Vanilla and B/C models but with nicer textures and broken/ugly animations and features.

I hope they get them fixed, they seem so broken to me and I was most excited for them in Cata.

Anyway, not a big deal I'm looking forward to the other models and will forget about Worgen for a long time.

[Pull My Finger]

I'm not really sure what you mean either. I'm aware that some people don't like the overall aesthetic design of the female Worgen. But in terms of technical realization, I don't see a drop in quality compared to the Goblins.

[Al Gorefiend]

What cheesy gimmicks are you referring to? I'm confuzzled. I'm not seeing anything unfinished about 'em!

Outrageous clipping with.. just about everything.

Look at a female worgens casting, shooting animation vs. a goblins.

[StrayFox]

What cheesy gimmicks are you referring to? I'm confuzzled. I'm not seeing anything unfinished about 'em!

They have absolutely NO facial animations. Goblins and Pandaren introduced facial animations. Also they are snarling all the the time.

Clipping, Clunky animations, texture overlay to look like their blinking (Vanilla and BC races did that.), female worgen have 'derpy' eyes, female worgen in general.

There was a thread about them I saw a while back that described all their flaws and it was immense.

[Ostrich]

The Worgen just need a complete overhaul, with the same time and love put into Pandaren and Goblins, but that won't be happening since Blizzard wants the updated races to still feel the same and not completely change them.

Their running animations are clunky, Running Wild looks ridiculous, the casting animations are awful, customization is minimal, they have barely any facial movement, and their bodies are weirdly proportioned like Vanilla and TBC races instead of cohesive like Goblins and Pandaren (the male Worgen have huge shoulders and tiny waists, they're eternally hunched while the females are always standing upright, their arms are lanky and weird looking)

I suppose these are all subjective, since there are people that like the Worgen and see nothing wrong with them, but it's obvious that the love put into Goblins to make them fun and highly customizable and of high quality was not given to the Worgen. It was exciting when they were announced to see Alliance get a savage feeling race like Orcs, but instead Alliance got rushed and badly made puppy people.

Hopefully in the future customization is taken a step forward and new options are added to change posture, proportions, tails, etc, because a lot of the playable models could use those options

[Yarathir]

They have absolutely NO facial animations. Goblins and Pandaren introduced facial animations. Also they are snarling all the the time.

Clipping, Clunky animations, texture overlay to look like their blinking (Vanilla and BC races did that.), female worgen have 'derpy' eyes, female worgen in general.

There was a thread about them I saw a while back that described all their flaws and it was immense.

Admittedly, goblins are also behind. The new models have way better hands and feet. Goblins currently don't have modeled toes, and their hands, while better than the TBC or classic models, are not really hands like the new ones. Also, they have way less bones in the face. Ditto for the worgen. They could change that up. In fact..


Goblins and worgen both need to be remodeled. Neither have actual eyes. They still use the old eye-system, which was just a blank gaze, with maybe a floating flat iris+pupil, and a slab of flat textures that randomly appears to represent the blinking. Pandaren actually blink. The lids of the model come together to form a natural blinking motion.


So I think both races could do with a relatively big overhaul. And if Blizzard goes with the classic and TBC having an 'old model' option, then they should do the same for goblins and worgen. Leave the Cataclysm version as an old model option for those who don't want the new, upgraded ones. Worgen could also use more customization in the new version, and of course the female worgen could use some bodily tweaks (fake breasts-b-gone) and a better face with more customization options. Ditto for worgen males on the customization options. Goblins could just use some texture refreshing when it comes to customization.

[Theatre]

I was really surprised when Blizzard stated that they would be looking at Goblin and Worgen models last. I know that's not a promise to actually do something about it, but the fact that they didn't just say that those two races were already "new enough" by default. I'm already in love with the goblin models, but I'm sure most people will agree female worgens need to be redone from scratch.

[Anthoren]

I was really surprised when Blizzard stated that they would be looking at Goblin and Worgen models last. I know that's not a promise to actually do something about it, but the fact that they didn't just say that those two races were already "new enough" by default. I'm already in love with the goblin models, but I'm sure most people will agree female worgens need to be redone from scratch.

The only thing worse than the concept of the female worgen is the seam of Tauren /shudder

[Yarathir]

I was really surprised when Blizzard stated that they would be looking at Goblin and Worgen models last. I know that's not a promise to actually do something about it, but the fact that they didn't just say that those two races were already "new enough" by default. I'm already in love with the goblin models, but I'm sure most people will agree female worgens need to be redone from scratch.

Agreed, that made me really happy. The goblins and worgen are fine, but they would be the worst after the model updates, as there is still quite a leap between goblin/worgen and pandaren level. So obviously, there is a reason to update them, but Blizzard could have likely gotten away with not doing it, so yeah! this is great.



And while goblins are mostly a-okay, they could use a slight texture refreshing, and more importantly, they can and should change the feet and hand models a bit. Make them more like the new models, which look like actual hands and toes. Goblin toes are atrocious. The new eye system (that the pandaren have) should also be applied to them. Otherwise there is not much to be changed when it comes to the goblins.

[Yig]

I completely disagree and the day in beta when my Worgen model changed to the new one I was in awe at how wicked and cool the model looked. I didn't think WOW character models would ever look that cool. Granted, it's more like a demonic rat wolf hybrid, but it still looks incredible. I actually loved the original Worgen and argued with people demanding a more feral look, and the idea Blizzard changed them because of those few threads on the beta forum asking for feral worgen is something I find laughable. I think they were going to do it all along, I don't think there was time between the rise of complaints and the release of the altered Worgen male to attribute it to community response. I think it's wrong to claim their proportions make them less cohesive because of your aesthetic preferences as well.

Apparently many people disagree with me.

Here are the screenshots of my character the night before the change and then after the change. I was astounded personally at how wicked they turned out.
I think they only lack facial animations because canines don't have a lot of facial expressions. Nothing to do with a rush job.

The female worgen I can't stand to look at outside of DK's, they almost look cool with glowing eyes. But nowhere as cool as Glow Wei's worgen female concept art.

[Kaleredar]

I completely disagree and the day in beta when my Worgen model changed to the new one I was in awe at how wicked and cool the model looked. I didn't think WOW character models would ever look that cool. Granted, it's more like a demonic rat wolf hybrid, but it still looks incredible. I actually loved the original Worgen and argued with people demanding a more feral look, and the idea Blizzard changed them because of those few threads on the beta forum asking for feral worgen is something I find laughable. I think they were going to do it all along, I don't think there was time between the rise of complaints and the release of the altered Worgen male to attribute it to community response. I think it's wrong to claim their proportions make them less cohesive because of your aesthetic preferences as well.

The only thing I think they should have kept are the pupils in the eyes. That would have made them look all the more awesome.

[TyrianFC]

So.. basically you play a Worgen and want your character to look better, even though the model is currently fine. We get it.

[Slowpoke is a Gamer]

I predict this becomes a thread about how female worgen need to be rolled back to their Alpha model.

[Immitis]

I completely disagree and the day in beta when my Worgen model changed to the new one I was in awe at how wicked and cool the model looked. I didn't think WOW character models would ever look that cool. Granted, it's more like a demonic rat wolf hybrid, but it still looks incredible. I actually loved the original Worgen and argued with people demanding a more feral look, and the idea Blizzard changed them because of those few threads on the beta forum asking for feral worgen is something I find laughable. I think they were going to do it all along, I don't think there was time between the rise of complaints and the release of the altered Worgen male to attribute it to community response. I think it's wrong to claim their proportions make them less cohesive because of your aesthetic preferences as well.

Apparently many people disagree with me.

Here are the screenshots of my character the night before the change and then after the change. I was astounded personally at how wicked they turned out.
I think they only lack facial animations because canines don't have a lot of facial expressions. Nothing to do with a rush job.

The female worgen I can't stand to look at outside of DK's, they almost look cool with glowing eyes. But nowhere as cool as Glow Wei's worgen female concept art.

i really wish they hadnt used the new models i was so disapointed when cata came out and i went to make my worgen and i was like "WHERE THE HELLS MY HAIR?"

i hadnt been keeping up with the cata news so i hadnt seen the new ones.

i was very let down. i still liked it but the original was just so much better, they felt like they had more variation and looked more diverse while the new one kind of looks the same nomatter what choices you use

[shokter]

I play a goblin. I'd be fine if they just left them as is or at least make it a low, low priority. Not a huge fan of either Worgen model really (particularly females), but /shrug.

[Immitis]

there was so much more customization in the alpha worgen models.



if they decide to make subraces they should just give the alpha models to worgen

[PepperjackJig]

i really wish they hadnt used the new models i was so disapointed when cata came out and i went to make my worgen and i was like "WHERE THE HELLS MY HAIR?"

i hadnt been keeping up with the cata news so i hadnt seen the new ones.

i was very let down. i still liked it but the original was just so much better, they felt like they had more variation and looked more diverse while the new one kind of looks the same nomatter what choices you use

While i didn't mind the face, The hair thing was weird, Why would a Canine have hair like that, or hair at all is my question it just looked out of place too me

there was so much more customization in the alpha worgen models.



if they decide to make subraces they should just give the alpha models to worgen

the only customization option the old worgen had that the new ones don't is hair, That's all, And it looked weird, Same number of faces, same number of fur color

[blackblade]

Goblin models already look pretty damn good IMO.

Worgen models though... ugh. Beta models were superior.

Worgen models got the Blood elf treatment where a sudden change in art direction mid flight left a whole lot of polish off the table.

[Wildmoon]

Goblen model is really good imo.

[Oncereborn]

I hope they get around to updating Pandaren models soon too.

But seriously, when does this end? Will players ever be satisfied?