Feral NEED Healing

[Cempa]

Feral NEED OP healing....no one knows why but the NEED IT!

Can any one shed some light?

[Fahrenheit]

Feral NEED OP healing....no one knows why but the NEED IT!

Can any one shed some light?

Because they're squishy as hell and have lost a lot of their damage mitigation tools.

Feral will be good the first season but I suspect It'll fall by the wayside the more people gear up and can burn through the constant rejuv.

[Lolretadin]

Because they're squishy as hell and have lost a lot of their damage mitigation tools.

Feral will be good the first season but I suspect It'll fall by the wayside the more people gear up and can burn through the constant rejuv.

That's not a good excuse, a class should never be blatantly OP just because "it might be UP if not".

[Deleted]

Because they're squishy as hell and have lost a lot of their damage mitigation tools.

Feral will be good the first season but I suspect It'll fall by the wayside the more people gear up and can burn through the constant rejuv.

Squishy as hell !?!?!? Ar you on drugs or ? Its friiking impossible to even get a feral under 80% atm wth their retarded state they are in.

[Deleted]

Currently leveling my feral, the healing for druids is insane. They sure as hell do not need it. Take Yseras Gift for example, it heals around 13200 over 30 seconds on my ilevel 510 level 90 druid. That's 32% more than my healing stream totem on my 675 (pvp, Ashran) shaman level 100 does.

Druid heal needs the nerf bat, badly. But they're far from alone. Retris, DKs and several other classes do even more absurd healing.

[Snuggli]

Agree with some of whats been said.

Feral is very susceptible to burst - they are one of few classes in the game who cannot press a single defensive ability while in CC and then only have a % dmg reduction after the CC has ended. They do need self healing - but maybe not to the extent that they have it at the moment. Also, burst is very low at the moment, which means classes with sustained healing are very strong (See: DKs, Rets, Ferals)

[Blithe]

Yeah, Feral healing's a little over the top at the moment I can definitely agree on that one.

[Anium]

Giving a feral more healing right now would be like giving the desert more sand. IT'S NUFF!!!!!!!!

[Deleted]

Its not just the healing, the dmg is also crazy, got a 47k noncrit once, dunno from what spell tho.

[Raugnaut]

Currently leveling my feral, the healing for druids is insane. They sure as hell do not need it. Take Yseras Gift for example, it heals around 13200 over 30 seconds on my ilevel 510 level 90 druid. That's 32% more than my healing stream totem on my 675 (pvp, Ashran) shaman level 100 does.

Druid heal needs the nerf bat, badly. But they're far from alone. Retris, DKs and several other classes do even more absurd healing.

If one class is below the self healing of the other classes, that one class should get buffed.

Shamans are in need of buffs.

[Lolretadin]

...burst is very low at the moment, which means classes with sustained healing are very strong (See: DKs, Rets, Ferals)

Saying Rets and DKs have sustained healing comparable to Ferals is like saying that Mages in WoD have comparable burst to Mages in MoP.

[George Costanza]

Shirvallah .

[Snuggli]

Saying Rets and DKs have sustained healing comparable to Ferals is like saying that Mages in WoD have comparable burst to Mages in MoP.

Rets can easily outheal Feral druids over a 6 minute game. The problem lies in the fact that Ferals don't lose anything from healing - Rejuv can be cast without shifting and is pretty much a filler spell in our rotation now, and Pred Swiftness procs for free when we use our finisher.

[r1dik]

The damage mitigation was just consolidated into doublecharge Surivval Instincts. And with more Seasons also Rejuv will heal more, the relative ratio of rejuv Healing vs. incoming damage will always be as much as the Developers tune it to be. It has nothing to do with the season.

Without barkskin and the glyph for it to reduce crit chance against us while stunned, we pretty much die instantly. Even with rejuv up they can damage through it more than I heal. You can't use survival instincts while stunned, so we have no damage reduction during it.

[Andyclan]

Currently leveling my feral, the healing for druids is insane. They sure as hell do not need it. Take Yseras Gift for example, it heals around 13200 over 30 seconds on my ilevel 510 level 90 druid. That's 32% more than my healing stream totem on my 675 (pvp, Ashran) shaman level 100 does.

Druid heal needs the nerf bat, badly. But they're far from alone. Retris, DKs and several other classes do even more absurd healing.

Hahaha well you're not 100 yet sooooo....

Trust me, we NEED it. This coming from arena and bgs at 100. Powerful? Yes, OP? No. We lost defense we gained healing. People only think our damage is strong because ferocious bite does a lot of damage. Our FINISHER does a lot of damage. That's it. Bleeds and builders do not.

I'm sick of seeing this shit everywhere. Without the healing we're ele shaman for Christ's sake. That's like saying "why do hunters need deterrance? They can already move while attacking AND they can disengage. Because they need it. Its survival.

It may seem OP now just wait till later in the season when people start gearing up. It will mean a lot less. And people can still take me down pretty quick even with the healing, so everyone needs to just relax. If u want to talk OP you need to check out disc priests.... Me and a rogues damage got out healed by holy nova spam. They're bullshit right now if u wanna complain about anyone.

[Gentlepenguin]

no idea, but if you complain enough maybe it'll get nerfed like recuperate. people really hate if a rogue can heal themselves.

[Deleted]

Agree with some of whats been said.

Feral is very susceptible to burst - they are one of few classes in the game who cannot press a single defensive ability while in CC and then only have a % dmg reduction after the CC has ended. They do need self healing - but maybe not to the extent that they have it at the moment. Also, burst is very low at the moment, which means classes with sustained healing are very strong (See: DKs, Rets, Ferals)

You're not alone with lacking said damage reduction, other classes who don't have it either and are even more suspectible to burst and being tunneled have nowhere near the healing you guys do.

If one class is below the self healing of the other classes, that one class should get buffed.

Shamans are in need of buffs.

Pfff, I decided to try a new approach to elemental. Elemental isn't underpowered, everyone else just needs so many nerfs they'll be brought down to our level. Then we can all suffer together!

Hahaha well you're not 100 yet sooooo....

My Shaman is and it's easily beaten in healing by my Druid who's 10 (now 5) levels lower and was 165 item levels behind.

I'm sick of seeing this shit everywhere. Without the healing we're ele shaman for Christ's sake. That's like saying "why do hunters need deterrance? They can already move while attacking AND they can disengage. Because they need it. Its survival.

No, without healings you wouldn't be elemental shamans. You'd still have damage and mobility and CC and server defense CDs and your other abilities would actually work and do what they're supposed to. That being said, I'm totaly fine with them making you the elemental of the melees. ;D

[Feranor]

Feral healing is only strong in 1v1 and 2v2, which are both irrelevant to PvP balance.

[Deleted]

Feral healing is only strong in a 1v1 imo which we all know Blizz doesn't balance around. Right now feral is VERY weak to CC and burst.

So in a 1v1 yes feral healing is strong as it is difficult for the opposing player to be out any sustained pressure. In group pvp and arena the healing is good, but not what I call strong. If we get focused in CC, stuns in particular, we just die.

[Aliessil]

Its not just the healing, the dmg is also crazy, got a 47k noncrit once, dunno from what spell tho.

That's a 5 combo Ferocious Bite (finisher), with Savage Roar up (another finisher). That means your team ignored the druid long enough to get the combo points in the first place. He then used FB on you because you were already low health and he was trying to finish you off, which means your healer wasn't keeping you out of the danger zone. If you weren't low health then the druid shouldn't have used FB in the first place.

Currently leveling my feral, the healing for druids is insane. They sure as hell do not need it. Take Yseras Gift for example, it heals around 13200 over 30 seconds on my ilevel 510 level 90 druid. That's 32% more than my healing stream totem on my 675 (pvp, Ashran) shaman level 100 does.

Druid heal needs the nerf bat, badly. But they're far from alone. Retris, DKs and several other classes do even more absurd healing.

Ysera's Gift is a passive heal that restores 4% of your health every 5sec. If someone's actually fighting you (as opposed to a bit of random AOE damage) you're probably dead in 2-3 ticks, making YG the worst PVP talent on that tier. You should also consider that YG heals one target only; the totem is an AOE heal which scales with spellpower. They're completely different.


I've fought a number of feral druids and I've not noticed them being any harder than anyone else.