So now that most of the US pro's have gone alliance too

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do people still feel like racials are somewhat balanced?

[Gangresnake]

I got the same problem
My entire PvP friendlist moved alliance

It's nothing new or sudden, but 6 years of EMFH remaining untouched have really taken its toll on this game

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Blizzard refuses to acknowledge the majority of high end pvpers choosing to play Human is because of the racial, it was nerfed for 1-2 weeks in cataclysm but was reverted later, which was dumb.

[meathead]

I got the same problem
My entire PvP friendlist moved alliance

It's nothing new or sudden, but 6 years of EMFH remaining untouched have really taken its toll on this game

yeah its about the only thing keeping people playing ally.more people already play horde even more so for pvp,whats that tell you?long ass horde q's and the like,why?tell you what re roll ally and post/link us your ranked #1 ach,you know since its game braking.orc has a weak racial right?cow stun sucks to as does more crit damage.


why would all these "pros" ever be horde to start with?according to you guys the human racial has been OP'ed for years.so why are "pros" just now going ally?one would think these pros would just be ally since you know they are pros and must know how powerful each racial is.

[Stanislav]

yeah its about the only thing keeping people playing ally.more people already play horde even more so for pvp,whats that tell you?long ass horde q's and the like,why?tell you what re roll ally and post/link us your ranked #1 ach,you know since its game braking.orc has a weak racial right?cow stun sucks to as does more crit damage.


why would all these "pros" ever be horde to start with?according to you guys the human racial has been OP'ed for years.so why are "pros" just now going ally?one would think these pros would just be ally since you know they are pros and must know how powerful each racial is.

snow ball effect, when your whole rbg team or arena buddies transfer or reroll ally, you got no other way but to do too.

[Gangresnake]

yeah its about the only thing keeping people playing ally.more people already play horde even more so for pvp,whats that tell you?long ass horde q's and the like,why?tell you what re roll ally and post/link us your ranked #1 ach,you know since its game braking.orc has a weak racial right?cow stun sucks to as does more crit damage.


why would all these "pros" ever be horde to start with?according to you guys the human racial has been OP'ed for years.so why are "pros" just now going ally?one would think these pros would just be ally since you know they are pros and must know how powerful each racial is.

Fun fact : I actually have the #1 RBG title, but I got it when I was ally

It's been a balance problem for years which was annoying but manageable, but after years and years the issue snowballed to the point where alliance is becoming the only pvp faction, and if you dont join them you'll be left behind
I'm a player who enjoy both PvP and PvE, but I cant do that on horde side anymore because of that, and it's upsetting me

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Hey, at least WotF is 3 minutes now.

[meathead]

Fun fact : I actually have the #1 RBG title, but I got it when I was ally

It's been a balance problem for years which was annoying but manageable, but after years and years the issue snowballed to the point where alliance is becoming the only pvp faction, and if you dont join them you'll be left behind
I'm a player who enjoy both PvP and PvE, but I cant do that on horde side anymore because of that, and it's upsetting me

more people play horde and more pvper play horde its as simple as that.so why were you and all the other "pros" ever horde to start with?want to know why?because this hole racial thing is op'ed is just bullshit.

reckfull is streaming right now and only has 1 human on his team a mage,how can he win?if he plays a team with 2 humans on it he will fail right?= bullshit.

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snow ball effect, when your whole rbg team or arena buddies transfer or reroll ally, you got no other way but to do too.

thats about all it is-when a few x-fer to a new server or the like to get easy rank ect his buddies follow.that still does not answer why people/pros are horde in the first place?how many years have the human racial been the same?but but hoodrych was an orc OMG!

[blackblade]

Hey, at least WotF is 3 minutes now.

hey man, forsaken can breathe underwater indefinitely. Come at us.

[Gangresnake]

more people play horde and more pvper play horde its as simple as that.so why were you and all the other "pros" ever horde to start with?want to know why?because this hole racial thing is op'ed is just bullshit.

reckfull is streaming right now and only has 1 human on his team a mage,how can he win?if he plays a team with 2 humans on it he will fail right?= bullshit.

Wrong. Alliance is 50.8% on EU, 50.9% on US. Source : https://realmpop.com/
Your claim that horde has more PvP player is just baseless

And now you're strawmaning, completely ignoring the main point, human racial is broken, but it's not the balance part that bother me, it's the part where it's been like that for so long that the Horde PvP community is now dying

[barrsftw]

yeah its about the only thing keeping people playing ally.more people already play horde even more so for pvp,whats that tell you?long ass horde q's and the like,why?tell you what re roll ally and post/link us your ranked #1 ach,you know since its game braking.orc has a weak racial right?cow stun sucks to as does more crit damage.


why would all these "pros" ever be horde to start with?according to you guys the human racial has been OP'ed for years.so why are "pros" just now going ally?one would think these pros would just be ally since you know they are pros and must know how powerful each racial is.

Because all of the alliance racials were buffed for WoD...

[heinz0r]

Seeing that orcs are the most iconic horde race and them having a damage trinket racial, it would be nice if Blizzard simply gave humans something comparable to that, like a proc for additional damage, and give EVERYONE an ability that works just like the pvp trinket. That way it would be balanced and all the races would be free to make better trinket choices. But no, the guys at Blizzard are stubborn as ever...

[fenrirx]

Seeing that orcs are the most iconic horde race and them having a damage trinket racial, it would be nice if Blizzard simply gave humans something comparable to that, like a proc for additional damage, and give EVERYONE an ability that works just like the pvp trinket. That way it would be balanced and all the races would be free to make better trinket choices. But no, the guys at Blizzard are stubborn as ever...

yeah and while we are at it, lets make every class have the same abilities and look the same and wear the same gear. for balance reasons ofcorse..

[Mazeari]

Your claim that horde has more PvP player is just baseless

Then why are the horde pvp queues significantly longer?

[Keyboard Champion]

Why? I thought kids played Horde cause herp derp badass-ness, why reroll "gay/pussy/kiddy" Alliance, as they so maturely put it?

[Eon Drache]

yeah its about the only thing keeping people playing ally.more people already play horde even more so for pvp,whats that tell you?long ass horde q's and the like,why?tell you what re roll ally and post/link us your ranked #1 ach,you know since its game braking.orc has a weak racial right?cow stun sucks to as does more crit damage.


why would all these "pros" ever be horde to start with?according to you guys the human racial has been OP'ed for years.so why are "pros" just now going ally?one would think these pros would just be ally since you know they are pros and must know how powerful each racial is.

Source on Faction balance?

[Fahrenheit]

Horde players crying about racial imbalances, HA!

[Raiju]

Horde players crying about racial imbalances, HA!

EMFH has been a racial imbalance of greater magnitude and for far longer than the horde racial imbalances

[Fahrenheit]

EMFH has been a racial imbalance of greater magnitude and for far longer than the horde racial imbalances

I'm sorry I don't buy that.

I know in Europe, Alliance dominates the ladders but in the US Horde does, overwhelmingly so. If EMFH was so overpowered how does that happen? I'm not saying EMFH isn't the best PvP racial, but I very much think it's value is over blown.

I suppose we'll see this arena season if there is a perceivable shift on US servers.

[Doctor Funkenstein]

Then why are the horde pvp queues significantly longer?

Because the smart ones put AV and IoC on their blacklist, since that's yet another reason lots of people are going Alliance for PVP -- free and easy honor with minimal effort. Whereas the smarter Alliance get to... well, they get to blacklist whichever two they simply don't like. And with AV and IoC being the two biggest battlegrounds -- and there being plenty of stupid Horde players who don't even know what the blacklist is -- it's easy peasy for them to get a BG to pop.