scepter of azj'aqir - increase Chance with an alt?

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Hello,

I recently had a thought that i could get the mount faster than just farming it on one toon. I noticed that u often get your First rare of a race Very early on with like 10-30 solves u usually get your First rare.

So is it maybe a good idea to just once you get your First tol vir rare farm with another char? Because he will get his First rare Quite fast also and it is always the Potential to be the mount.

Im not sure if it speeds up things any opinions?

[Kagonos]

I've seen no evidence or confirmation as to when/how you obtain your first rare... BUT, I suggest starting in Draenor on your alts, farm archaeology until you get the drop that let's you get to 700 without returning to a trainer and then farm your brains out in Tol'vir archaeology areas. The trouble is that those stupid Tol'vir digsites require you to clear the other Kalimdor sites in the hopes of spawning a Tol'vir one.

Another option would be to farm Draenor sites and use the crated artifacts to buy Tol'vir fragments... You DO have to be level 700 in order to do that, but it's another choice you have.

[Zulandia]

I've seen no evidence or confirmation as to when/how you obtain your first rare... BUT, I suggest starting in Draenor on your alts, farm archaeology until you get the drop that let's you get to 700 without returning to a trainer and then farm your brains out in Tol'vir archaeology areas. The trouble is that those stupid Tol'vir digsites require you to clear the other Kalimdor sites in the hopes of spawning a Tol'vir one.

Another option would be to farm Draenor sites and use the crated artifacts to buy Tol'vir fragments... You DO have to be level 700 in order to do that, but it's another choice you have.

Farm MoP dig sites if you're after Tol'Vir it's the quickest way (same benefits as WoD without needing a ground mount)...farm MoP if you're after anything but WoD ones really.

[Alfakennyone]

I got mine to pop after farming MoP digsites and just use the restored artifacts for Tol Vir ones. Much easier than flying all over kalimdor.

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I know how to get Tol'vir digsites^^

I just wanna know if it increases the speed of getting scepter if i start doing archeology on an alt because he doesnt have any rares yet from tol'vir and u usually get your first rare quite fast.
Am i right or is this just rng that i got my first rare of any race quite fast always?

[Zulandia]

I know how to get Tol'vir digsites^^

I just wanna know if it increases the speed of getting scepter if i start doing archeology on an alt because he doesnt have any rares yet from tol'vir and u usually get your first rare quite fast.
Am i right or is this just rng that i got my first rare of any race quite fast always?

This would not increase your chances.

[Nohara]

Hello,

I recently had a thought that i could get the mount faster than just farming it on one toon. I noticed that u often get your First rare of a race Very early on with like 10-30 solves u usually get your First rare.

So is it maybe a good idea to just once you get your First tol vir rare farm with another char? Because he will get his First rare Quite fast also and it is always the Potential to be the mount.

Im not sure if it speeds up things any opinions?

Yes, yes and yes.

This is the case. There are common rare's and rare rare's. If you have not yet found all common rare's, there is an increased chance to find a rare rare. The game rolls twice, the first roll is there only for a chance to get a 'grey' or a 'rare'. Before you have found the easy rare, the chance is probably 1/5 to 1/10 to hit a rare solve. Then the game rolls again, this time in the grey pool, to determine which grey you get, which is probably all the same. But for the extra rare roll, there is probably a 4/5 chance to get the common rares, but a 1/5th chance to get a rare one. THEN the game rolls again, basicly 25% chance to get each of the four rares. (Or if you have 1, 2 or 3 a 33%, 50% or 100% chance).

This is the reason why lots of people get the staff, sword, pet or mount so early in their dig adventure. (And also why other need 1 million digs.)

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Yes, yes and yes.

This is the case. There are common rare's and rare rare's. If you have not yet found all common rare's, there is an increased chance to find a rare rare. The game rolls twice, the first roll is there only for a chance to get a 'grey' or a 'rare'. Before you have found the easy rare, the chance is probably 1/5 to 1/10 to hit a rare solve. Then the game rolls again, this time in the grey pool, to determine which grey you get, which is probably all the same. But for the extra rare roll, there is probably a 4/5 chance to get the common rares, but a 1/5th chance to get a rare one. THEN the game rolls again, basicly 25% chance to get each of the four rares. (Or if you have 1, 2 or 3 a 33%, 50% or 100% chance).

This is the reason why lots of people get the staff, sword, pet or mount so early in their dig adventure. (And also why other need 1 million digs.)

wow i didnt get ANY of what you just said o.O

so are you saying i should continue farming with an alt or should i keep doing on my main? on my main i already have 2 rares (scarab thingie and ring)

[Cthulhu 2020]

Certain archaeology "rares" aren't rare at all, and have just as much chance of popping as a common. The difference is once you complete these rares they will of course not pop again. The scepter is not one of these particular rares, so you do not have an increased chance of seeing it on first time alts. Just keep plugging away at it on whatever toon you want. I sucked it up during MoP and grinded the scepter, the claw, and all of the account bound epics.

After having done a couple of hundred solves in Cata and giving up, it only took me ~50 solves to get all of them, so I actually kinda feel like either they increased the chance, or I got really lucky getting all 5 of them in so few solves.

[Nohara]

wow i didnt get ANY of what you just said o.O

so are you saying i should continue farming with an alt or should i keep doing on my main? on my main i already have 2 rares (scarab thingie and ring)

Go on a alt, once you have found both the ring and the scarabs thingy, move to another alt.

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Go on a alt, once you have found both the ring and the scarabs thingy, move to another alt.

so 2 people now saying 2 different things ...
what now

[Kagonos]

http://www.wowdigsite.com/guides/rares-explained/

This article is dated 2011, but unless they have changed the way rares work, this might help you some.

From the very last paragraph in the article:
So, in short, if you’re after a particular rare in Night Elf, Dwarf, or Troll don’t solve any projects for them until you hit 450 skill. If you’ve already screwed yourself over, regrind Archaeology on an alt. Trust me, it’s a better time investment than trying to hit 1% on a project. If you’re after a Tol’Vir BOA weapon or other rare, good f-ing luck. This is also why, instead of asking for the ability to specify dig sites, you should be asking the devs to add more tol’vir commons.

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I got all Tol'vir commons and the Scarab and Ring Rares.

in short should i keep grinding or should i level archeology with an alt and do what then?

[Kagonos]

It seems inconclusive. Bottom line is Tol'vir just sucks because there are too few common items, so what I'm getting out of it is that for Tol'vir only, it literally doesn't matter. Unless your alts are already 450+ archaeology, don't bother. If they are, you might find it more beneficial if you haven't already gotten the rares to start on them until you've seen 2 rares, then swap to a new one that is already 450+. That would be my suggestion.

[Nohara]

so 2 people now saying 2 different things ...
what now

The 'droperate' is 1/100 after you have found the ring and scarab thing. Its a 20% chance to hit a very rare at the start.

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So apparently after 90 solves i got my 3rd rare -___- of course it snot the mount its the 1 handed sword thingie.

Is that good that i got it or are the chances of getting the mount going down and down after every rare? I have 3 Tol'vir rares with only 90 solves not sure if this is good for getting the mount or actually bad and if i should start on an alt.

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HOLY FUCKIN HELL i actually got it on my 97th solve.

i cant believe this. 4 rares with 97 solves and the 97th solves was the god damn scepter. thanks rng gods thanks. i never ever get rare stuff finally got lucky 1 time

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EDIT: BELIEVE IT OR NOT. this time i was solving like 10 tol'virs in a row and actually the first time i put this thing on: http://www.wowhead.com/item=27944/talisman-of-true-treasure-tracking

believe it or not after i put this on i got it on the 3rd solve of the 10 i was doing. not kidding

[Kagonos]

So apparently after 90 solves i got my 3rd rare -___- of course it snot the mount its the 1 handed sword thingie.

Is that good that i got it or are the chances of getting the mount going down and down after every rare? I have 3 Tol'vir rares with only 90 solves not sure if this is good for getting the mount or actually bad and if i should start on an alt.

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HOLY FUCKIN HELL i actually got it on my 97th solve.

i cant believe this. 4 rares with 97 solves and the 97th solves was the god damn scepter. thanks rng gods thanks. i never ever get rare stuff finally got lucky 1 time

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EDIT: BELIEVE IT OR NOT. this time i was solving like 10 tol'virs in a row and actually the first time i put this thing on: http://www.wowhead.com/item=27944/ta...asure-tracking

believe it or not after i put this on i got it on the 3rd solve of the 10 i was doing. not kidding

Congratulations, mate! (For the record, though, that necklace does absolutely nothing. It's just a funny item originally sold by a guy named Griftah in Shattrath. A Grifter is basically a charlatan who sells snake oil and the like. It's purely coincidence that it worked out that way, lol.)

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believe it or not after i put this on i got it on the 3rd solve of the 10 i was doing. not kidding

Coincidence

[SoLoR1]

Got Claw on my main, gave up there to get mount (after finished more then 2/3 of WoD achivment progress), leveled archaeology on my alt, did almost all MoP achivments before i got mount (just today). Now im still doing MoP stuff just to finish all achievements and maybe get Vial of the Sands recipe. This one is pain in the ass to get as well 1st you need to be lucky to get Jar as a project, then there is 2% chance of recipe droping, didnt saw it yet ether on main or on alt, however i prefer to get it on alt so i can easier reroll profession...

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Is that good that i got it or are the chances of getting the mount going down and down after every rare? I have 3 Tol'vir rares with only 90 solves not sure if this is good for getting the mount or actually bad and if i should start on an alt.

Pretty sure I read somewhere that the chance of getting a rare for a given race on Azeroth (not elsewhere) is reduced to virtually 0 if you only have 1 left to find for that race. So at that point, yes it's alt time. (until then, hope for the right one to pop)

(I'd be interested to know if anyone has actually managed to find all the rares for an Azerothian race, not counting the turtle shell as that was added in later)