Help Me Analyze My Shadow Logs

[Wisk]

So I recently switched from Resto Shaman to Shadow Priest and wanted to see if you guys can help me look through my logs to see how I can improve. My priest was Disc, but over the last few weeks I've been working on getting the crit gear needed for AS. I believe I'm around 23% crit when food and raid buffed. I've noticed my mythic parses seem to be a little low, but I think most of that is due to not having many BIS items when compared to other spriests that have been running mythic BRF longer and have acquired the gear. I'm considering just playing COP on some fights like Gruul, Oregorger and Thogar (maybe) since I'm still pretty high on mastery, but please let me know what you guys think.

A couple things to note:
Iron Maidens: We were told to stop DPS for about 30 seconds before we pushed into the last phase.
Thogar: I was in on a couple pulls and my DPS was absolutely atrocious (lower 30K). I think I need a little more experience trying to DPS that fight as I felt somewhat lost for most of it.
Flamebender: I had a bit of movement during this fight due to 3 molten torrents and fixate.

Armory:
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...r/Wiske/simple

Logs:
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports...mary&source=14

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I'll quickly go through it:
- VTouch uptime could be a bit better in general
- Don't pot immediately at 20%, pot when you get 1-2 procs like the ring and trinket buffs, even during hero you can wait a bit as long as you get full use of pot during hero
- Sometimes you delay Mind Blast too much, most of your MBs are casted 3 seconds later than they should and gaps as high as 20 seconds
- Didn't prepot on gruul
- Insanity could be used a bit more, you have a lot of casts but not many ticks
- Doesn't happen too much but sometimes you miss shadow orbs and you get capped
- Use second pot on the second wave of wolves, not when flamebender hits 20%, 5 SWPs ticking and still able to get ToF and SWD off makes this way better than 20% pot although optimally, second wave of wolves should be roughly when boss is at 20%
- Maidens performance was pretty good overall but a few capped shadow orbs and sometimes delaying SWD too long

[Wisk]

Hey thanks for the response and advice. I know there are a few things I need to work on such as over capping on orbs occasionally and VTouch uptime. The Gruul pull was an accidental pull so nobody got their prepots going lol. I did have one question in regards to Insanity. I noticed as well that I have a lot of casts, but fewer ticks when compared to other Spriests. Am I just clipping it too soon perhaps? I have Gnosis and try to watch it, but I have noticed sometimes I start my insanity channel just as another top priority ability comes up so I cut it short.

[Lamortykins]

Thogar: I was in on a couple pulls and my DPS was absolutely atrocious (lower 30K). I think I need a little more experience trying to DPS that fight as I felt somewhat lost for most of it.

If you really want to dominate the charts on Thogar, use CoP and insanity. The mind sear damage is insane when the huge groups of adds come out, although that damage isn't particularly meaningful. None of the adds really live long enough for AS to do its thing.
The 40% Mind Sear buff from CoP plus the double-damage from insanity makes for some pretty crazy AoE.

The other dps in your raid are doing up to 50% of their total damage to Thogar and the rest to adds. More than 80% of your damage was to Thogar. I don't know if you were trying to compare yourself to the rest of the raid, but that would be why you were lower. Thogar is easy to cheese the meters.

[Deja Thoris]

The other dps in your raid are doing up to 50% of their total damage to Thogar and the rest to adds. More than 80% of your damage was to Thogar. I don't know if you were trying to compare yourself to the rest of the raid, but that would be why you were lower. Thogar is easy to cheese the meters.

He's not asking for advice on how to cheese adds that live for 10 seconds. You need to distinguish between useful damage and padding. What you're advocating will make him look better on the meters but is pretty much pure padding.

[Deleted]

If you really want to dominate the charts on Thogar, use CoP and insanity. The mind sear damage is insane when the huge groups of adds come out, although that damage isn't particularly meaningful. None of the adds really live long enough for AS to do its thing.
The 40% Mind Sear buff from CoP plus the double-damage from insanity makes for some pretty crazy AoE.

The other dps in your raid are doing up to 50% of their total damage to Thogar and the rest to adds. More than 80% of your damage was to Thogar. I don't know if you were trying to compare yourself to the rest of the raid, but that would be why you were lower. Thogar is easy to cheese the meters.

Not on mythic, AS is the way to go. Adds aren't really alive long enough to use CoP mind sear. Most of your AoE damage will be from Cascade/Halo and this rank was achieved with a low SWP crit percentage.

My log on this fight: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports...&view=rankings

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I feel as if CoP is by far better for every fight except maybe Blast furnace and H&F if you can't manage your movement carefully when looking at it from a progression standpoint and not a dps parsing standpoint. I recommend going CoP with a more mastery orientated build.

It's priority target damage is much less RNG reliant and will overall be more consistent and efficient. AS is okay but it's not worth the loss in consistency and not knowing when exactly you will be able to DP or when exactly you have to worry about capping orbs in my opinion.

[Lamortykins]

He's not asking for advice on how to cheese adds that live for 10 seconds. You need to distinguish between useful damage and padding. What you're advocating will make him look better on the meters but is pretty much pure padding.

Yeah that... was pretty much the whole point of my post.

[Deleted]

AS is better on 8/10 fights on mythic and with good gear. If you have crap gear then yes, CoP is better on most fights. Only Kromog is where CoP is overall better since Gruul is a "how lucky did you get" fight.

[Deleted]

If you consider 700 ilvl crap gear then yes I suppose.

[Naux]

If you consider 700 ilvl crap gear then yes I suppose.

It is not very nice to come troll someone's thread that is asking for help.

[Deleted]

It is not very nice to come troll someone's thread that is asking for help.

I don't understand how my statement was trolling. I have plenty of statistical evidence to back up my statement. I'm speaking from a progression standpoint. not a dps parsing one.

[Naux]

I don't understand how my statement was trolling. I have plenty of statistical evidence to back up my statement. I'm speaking from a progression standpoint. not a dps parsing one.

Well all of your evidence is extremely biased then, which is odd when you claim to have ilvl700 toon.

[Haikus]

Well all of your evidence is extremely biased then, which is odd when you claim to have ilvl700 toon.

Hes also the same guy that claimed he killed mythic blackhand/furnace in like 12 pulls each

[Naux]

Hes also the same guy that claimed he killed mythic blackhand/furnace in like 12 pulls each

So he's a troll thought so, oh well he got me to respond. Damn I lost the game.

[Wisk]

Thanks for all the great info guys. I definitely have some things to work on and I might go COP on a few more fights for now. Fully buffed, I'm sitting at around 24.5% crit w/ the heroic Oregorger trinket. I'm thinking on fights like Gruul, Oregorger, Kromog, and maybe Thogar that I'll just roll COP and see how it goes.

[Haikus]

Thanks for all the great info guys. I definitely have some things to work on and I might go COP on a few more fights for now. Fully buffed, I'm sitting at around 24.5% crit w/ the heroic Oregorger trinket. I'm thinking on fights like Gruul, Oregorger, Kromog, and maybe Thogar that I'll just roll COP and see how it goes.

Your crit level is fine. Gruul you can play either, but AS will do more damage with crazy rng, oregorger i personally prefer AS for dotting as many boxes as possible and keep dots on him in rolling phase. Kromog COP all day, and thogar I originally used COP but found myself wanting the movement of AS and you can really benefit from sw the firemender/Man at arms, sure your aoe damage will bring you lower on meters but just leave that to locks/boomkings/dks/enh

[Deleted]

Hes also the same guy that claimed he killed mythic blackhand/furnace in like 12 pulls each

Your point? Like I stated in said post, with half decent raiders you can easily copy the strategic guides from dozens of approved strategies from the nearly 300 guilds who have executed the fight properly. But that is off topic, if you would like to learn more about proper raid preparation, feel free to PM me.

[Wisk]

Hey guys, just an update but my DPS was much better last week and I managed to parse blue and purple on several fights. I think getting the extra gear definitely helped out so hopefully this week I can improve even more. Thanks again!

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/ranking...latest/#boss=0

[Kenyans]

hey wisk did getrow get banned