Help me understand why the Legendary ring can be obtained through LFR; now in 6.2 too

[Deleted]

This is not going to be anti-LFR and you will see why is that with what I will suggest later on. However as it stands, I believe its easy accessibility defeats its design-purpose.

By definition

It is called "legendary" because you or with others need to do something legendary. Its counter-to-logic if you obtain that so easily.

By ilevel

It has the highest level in game; that means it should be the hardest part of your gear to acquire by logic itself; getting your "curve" in Mythic should be a standard requirement as it would be the ultimate reward of achievement or alternatively some type of mythic-kills requirement.

By design

This huge DPS boost implies that it is needed due to a wide range of extremely difficult, complex and diverse boss-encounters and mechanics or generally an activity that without it, it would be impossible to take part and perform.

Suggestions

a.Each difficulty; LFR, Normal, Heroic, Mythic should have their own versions of it and its ilevel with its procs should scale up accordingly; 5%, 10%, 15% and 25% with the appropriate ilevels.

b.Make it so that regardless of the difficulty there is some form of grind into it to accommodate for everyone; taking into account the latest raid results, it is pretty clear that most generally like to do to one difficulty setting, letting the 10-15% working to progress from one difficulty to the next. It should be something to "grind for" like a mount/transmog/achievement and thus be a complimentary motivating factor.

An example of 6.1 Legendary Ring.


An example of 6.2 Legendary Ring.


These are my initial thoughts.

[Dasani]

Legendaries haven't been casualized more and more over the years.

Starting in wrath, where they created 10-man and more accessible raiding, legendaries were basically offlimits unless you were a 25-man raider. You couldn't get shadowmourne or Val'anyr through 10-man, only through 25-man.

In cata, they made it obtainable by 10-man as well.

And in MOP, through LFR. And also making generic, boring legendaries that apply to everyone.

Legendaries give people something to do, some way to invest their time, and that is very important for casuals because they want that powerful item thats gonna be better than any of their casual shitgear they have and they will spend time obtaining it.

It's become more about keeping casuals subscribed than providing a quality game experience. All of it is motivated by money.

[Jessicka]

It's a Legendary Ring to show you participated in the content across the duration of the expansion. As a part of the story, the Legend if you will. It's about the only reward in-game you do get as a long-time subscriber per-expansion, and frankly whatever level you're playing at, giving you this thing is the least they can do.

[Nnyco]

even through lfr, it still takes several months to get it, all that work makes it legendary

[Sting]

It's fine, you get it faster if you raid normally as opposed to somebody who only does LFR and has to wait for the wings to open.

[dacoolist]

I agree OP, it should be for only the most hardcore elitist special snowflakes in WoW. It shouldn't be accessible to LFR people - where - you have 50% less drop's for legendaries, the raids don't open for 2 months (gated wings), and you know, of course - I mean why give someone who spent months going for something anything cool right?

A legendary should be for special snowflakes only. ripinpeace

[Moxal]

LFR only players have to spend just as long getting the ring as you do and that gets them one really good item.

However, during that time you have also been getting full normal/heroic/mythic gear as well whereas they are stuck around ~660.

Everyone gets to work towards the only major storyline in the expansion and earn the ring. Additionally, the people who have done non-LFR content have much better (ilvl, appearance and tier) gear in the end.

I don't understand the problem.

[roahn the warlock]

I think it's because they changed the definition of "legendary" it's not what it used to mean.

Now's it's a xpack-long quest. Sort of like the old class quests. Rolled into an item. A good idea to please players would maybe be.

When you kill the final boss for that last item you need to make the ring legendary. The level where you collect the final item effects how powerful the ring is. Sort of like how Heirloom gear worked in SoO. And say you clear normal, then clear heroic, you can take the new end boss item, and upgrade the ring then.

[Deleted]

Do I smell the bad breath of a butthurt elitist jerk?

The "casuals" who manage to get the legendary through LFR won't otherwise be decked up in heroic raid gear, so don't worry, you can still continue thinking you are superior to them.

Besides, the grind to get it is a legendary waste of time and energy, as always. It's good that it can still be obtained through your own hard work even if you aren't in a hardcore raiding guild.

[Nutri]

It has the highest level in game; that means it should be the hardest part of your gear to acquire by logic itself; getting your "curve" in Mythic should be a standard requirement as it would be the ultimate reward of achievement or alternatively some type of mythic-kills requirement.

But by that logic, what purpose would the item have if you obtain it after beating the hardest boss in the game? Shouldn't the ring complementary in being able to defeat a hard challenge?

I know this doesn't held up against previous, final boss raid drop legendary items like the bow from KJ, but I'm asking this from a logic point of view The legendary should bestow power to aid you in defeating the most hardest of bosses, not be a reward afterwards.

[Venziir]

Only if you help me understand why the hell you care?

[Deleted]

i go afk in raid finder every weak so i can get the legendary haaaaaaaahaaha its so funny in tbc you had to be a raid leader or raid leader gf to get legendary in a top guild this days you can go afk hahaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaa

[Deleted]

I think it is a good decision to allow the expansion-wide legendary to be completed in LFR. Throughout MoP there were times where I could not raid so my only option was to do some LFRs during the weekend. Similarly with the Abrogator Stones, I couldn't raid during the Christmas holiday, so getting a reduced amount of drops was still fine by me.

I think all raiders would appreciate having this backup option. Besides, it's not just the item rewards that are worth it, but the ongoing storyline that goes with the legendary. I have no issue with people who only do LFR to experience the quest chain.

[Deleted]

Do I smell the bad breath of a butthurt jerk?

yes you do (i fixed that small part cause a real elitist doesnt give a fuk what gear other people have cause he never mets them anyway...)

[Grogo]

The question is, why do people believe they should get a "Legendary" item doing easy content? How do you even justify that with a straight face?

The first thing they will come back with is calling the people willing to work for it 'special snowflakes". That is so blatantly full of shit. Yes, them doing the hardest content in the game is considered elitist and special snow flakes.

Talk about entitlement. That is the ugly side of some people, the entitlement and expectations of life giving them shit for nothing.

[Apexis]

The biggest reason for everyone to obtain these forms of legendaries at all the various levels is, because it is a mandatory item to have, if you want to play the raiding game. Its used as just another hoop or tool to further gate or pigeon hole them into certain level of play. Making one version and not for make complete sense from a development standpoint. If one is using a different version of the ring in another level of difficult and given these proc are a group wide proc, each one has to work in concert with the other and every raid encounter has to be a tuned a certain way in order for them to work properly.

Blizzard's at the point where they can't even come up with decent out of raid content and you are worried about a ring proc. Seriously, I think you have your special snowflake priorities focused in the wrong area. Heck there been more bitch over this ring proc, then necessary and now you want to have you own level of proc, so you can feel all that more special. The best part of this whole ring grind, was the quest and lore in order to obtain it. The ring is garbage, very few like that it is tied to raid wide proc and its not all that exciting, much like the rest of the content in this expansion outside of raiding and leveling.

Those are my thoughts. I have more.

[BananaHandsB]

I think they should have the Legendaries for everyone like the cape and now ring, but also a Mythic-only Legendary weapon that drops off the last boss like the good old days.

[Deleted]

Very simple: it's mandatory for raiding and it takes months to assemble. You can have it w/o raiding, by doing LFR, so that when you want to switch to an alt you weren't raiding with, you can at least pick up the alt and start. While otherwise you would be too much of a burden for your group carrying the alt. Getting decent gear on an alt is a matter of several lockouts, at which point it becomes more or less on par. Good luck hacking time so you can do 4 months of grind in 2-3 weeks, or otherwise convincing your group (which needs the alt in the first place) that they should wait for half of the typical duration of a tier for your alt to becomeviable.

[A Chozo]

Because there's still hard work and perseverance in working on it on LFR. Also, it's the main storyline, the ring is a reward for doing the story, not for beating a boss with 15 other strangers.

[Venant]

I agree OP, it should be for only the most hardcore elitist special snowflakes in WoW. It shouldn't be accessible to LFR people - where - you have 50% less drop's for legendaries, the raids don't open for 2 months (gated wings), and you know, of course - I mean why give someone who spent months going for something anything cool right?

A legendary should be for special snowflakes only. ripinpeace

Being 5/10 Mythic nowadays barely puts you in the top 3000 guilds, compared to past expansions, that's a pretty large group to have cleared half of the content on the hardest difficulty.